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Its still integrated in alot of our fans from the 90s i reckon, and i'm not just calling out a certain age group. As people below that age group can influence the younger lads.
Train back from Arsenal a bunch of 50 year old fella's throthing at the mouth singing songs on a certain coach.
Eventually got to one lad shouting songs about 'darkies' 'pink palms' 'eto'o is white' etc etc
It was so embarrassing, and im guilty for not standing up and saying something, but how do you confront a group of 10 meat head fella's who think its ok to song that crap in public.
A young black lad got on the train at crew, luckily he had his ear phones in, he was dressed as if he was at someones academy and had been to a game or training, so hopefully he didnt hear any of that crap, ironic thing is, that young lad is probably more successful in his 17 odd years on this planet then any of them fat messes have achieved in there years on the planet. One fella was talking to the others that his mum's getting his tea ready and another about how he cant wait to see his dog!
If people say these aren't Everton fans its incorrect, they are Everton fans unfortunately
However, is calling Chelsea "rent boys" really homophobic? Where is the line for banter?
This thread is embarrassing.
A couple of racists identified and the whole fan base are under the cosh...from some Evertonians.
Makes you think.
Hi all,
well where do I start. I am a blue. I am British born . I have a surname Patel so as you can guess from Indian heritage although parents were born and bred in Kenya.
Been an Everton fan all my life. I am mid 40’s now and when I was younger going to games terrified me at times especially away games. I still attended but racism was more rife then. It was a minority of our fans but they couldn’t accept me as a blue drie to my skin colour. That was years ago and totally agree this is not a football thing but a society thing.
Now season ticket holder with my son and have no issues in the ground at all. Made some good at the game friends we speak too etc. I do however sometimes feel I get looked at when entering some pubs I tend to wear colours under coat I guess one I take coat off and people see I am a blue then I am accepted. Again this is the minority. All the same makes me feel uncomfortable especially when my son is with me. I can handle looks etc but would hate my son to feel anxious especially while supporting his team.
he is desperate to get to an away game and I haven’t been for a while. Have concerns but it will never stop me. Just need to get tickets I guess.
The OP was all about stopping the media launching an attack against Everton...but starting a thread on it and then others chip in with anecdotes from 30 years ago does exactly that: facilitates media attacks.What wham are you talking now miserable Dave? One of our fans is done for racism, every poster to a man agrees he's a tit, some also reflect on the fact our club / fans had a reputation for racism well into the 1990s (see that Efan Ekoku game at Norwich for plentiful evidence) and that we wish to banish it but it is nowadays the case of a few bad eggs and we have also always had fans who took great umbrage with those racists. Yet now the "whole fan base" are under the cosh according to tinhat Dave? Give it a rest.
Hi all,
well where do I start. I am a blue. I am British born . I have a surname Patel so as you can guess from Indian heritage although parents were born and bred in Kenya.
Been an Everton fan all my life. I am mid 40’s now and when I was younger going to games terrified me at times especially away games. I still attended but racism was more rife then. It was a minority of our fans but they couldn’t accept me as a blue drie to my skin colour. That was years ago and totally agree this is not a football thing but a society thing.
Now season ticket holder with my son and have no issues in the ground at all. Made some good at the game friends we speak too etc. I do however sometimes feel I get looked at when entering some pubs I tend to wear colours under coat I guess one I take coat off and people see I am a blue then I am accepted. Again this is the minority. All the same makes me feel uncomfortable especially when my son is with me. I can handle looks etc but would hate my son to feel anxious especially while supporting his team.
he is desperate to get to an away game and I haven’t been for a while. Have concerns but it will never stop me. Just need to get tickets I guess.
The OP was all about stopping the media launching an attack against Everton...but starting a thread on it and then others chip in with anecdotes from 30 years ago does exactly that: facilitates media attacks.
Everton have far less of a profile than other clubs on this issue. We are known for our commiunity work and all round good eggness.
If you want a club that has problems with racism then look no forther than across Stanley Park. Liverpool FC are a rancid pit of racism.
It's highlighting an incident or two and tarring the whole fanbase. That may not have been the original intent, but that's what happens in threads like this...threads that can be *ahem* 'hijacked'.Dave, but if we are confident and self-aware - i.e. if we have racism we openly talk about it and acknowledge it - that should not make it worse, we should argue together that even if we have a single incident, we don't accept it. Other clubs may be worse, you're right they are, but we don't even tolerate a single incident! That's the point
I find older people, when say I older I mean 60/70s are guilty more than any, and most of the time they dont even realise what they are saying is wrong.A fella in work was telling me something and he used two words that just were disgustingly racist but it didnt even register with him.They are Everton fans but what defines them is their racist tendencies not the fact that they chose to be Everton fans.
I think its still in a lot of people from the 90's not necessarily just our fans. There is an awful lot of "lazy" racism still in existence which I find more annoying than dangerous.