Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The word lumpenproletariat isn't used much anymore, but this group had been recognised for centuries:

'Generally unemployable people who make no positive contribution to an economy. Sometimes described as the bottom layer of a capitalist society. May include criminal and mentally unstable people.

Without a clear class-consciousness, the lumpenproletariat could not play a positive role in society. Instead, it exploited society for its own ends, and was in turn exploited as a tool of destruction and reaction.'



Due to a desire to keep clean the hands of the larger public, paramilitary groups are often used to commit atrocities and they often recruit mainly among criminals, said to be used to violence and brutality and wanting to enjoy an occasion to loot. The lumpenproletariat has been described as being more likely to adhere to doctrines calling for ethnic cleansing and to organize in militias.


We've got politicians pandering to these people so they can do their dirty work.

Marx, innit.

Not without criticism. The contemporary equivalent is the 'underclass', again, a problematic term.

 

[COYBL25]

It means they don't want foreigners in it. Then they dress it up as concern for lack of tourism. Mad.

There`s about as much tourism in Tamworth, as there is in Skelmesdale.

That hotel will will have previously been a your typical Holiday Inn Express for the likes of contractors and reps etc.

I`d wager that not one single one of those rioters has ever set foot in it.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Poverty 100% is the main contributing factor and the reason Yaxley Lennon and other right wing opportunists target these places.

I dunno, there's some comfortable people shouting in this space too. They're probably less likely to be on the streets, but you never know.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

There`s about as much tourism in Tamworth, as there is in Skelmesdale.

That hotel will will have previously been a your typical Holiday Inn Express for the likes of contractors and reps etc.

I`d wager that not one single one of those rioters has ever set foot in it.

There's this as far as I can see. Didn't hit target. https://www.change.org/p/tamworth-holiday-inn-is-an-unsuitable-choice-for-asylum-seekers

Genuine concern or disingenuous pretence? Who knows.

 

[Seanjd]

I dunno, there's some comfortable people shouting in this space too. They're probably less likely to be on the streets, but you never know.

Yeah I mean racism and hooliganism is by no means exclusively a poor man's game, but it also spreads easily through deprived communities.

 

[COYBL25]

A look at how they are dressed and what their attitude is would suggest not. There looks a strong correlation between the people who break into houses and rob cars and these types.

I just can`t get my head around the fact, that most of the mobs in these place will be on benefits up to their eye balls, yet want to deny other human beings the right to claim the self same benefits because of the country they came from.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

@JimmyJeffers let your man know - there's some serious flexing going on in here.

Lumpenproletariat. I ask you.

 

[COYBL25]

There's this as far as I can see. Didn't hit target. https://www.change.org/p/tamworth-holiday-inn-is-an-unsuitable-choice-for-asylum-seekers

Genuine concern or disingenuous pretence? Who knows.

That makes Tamworth sound like it`s a tourist Mecca like York

 

[Seanjd]

I just can`t get my head around the fact most of the mobs in these place will be on benefits up to their eye balls, yet want to deny other human beings the right to claim the self same benefits because of the country they came from.

When the focus of why their opportunities are nonexistent and quality of life is poor is directed towards the impact immigrants rather than governmental choices it's easy to see.

 

[Paris]

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

That makes Tamworth sound like it`s a tourist Mecca like York

I am starting to wonder just how organic the attacks on the Asylum hotels were. Or if certain groups decided to go for ones that might not be too well policed and were in the public eye?

 

[turner]

@JimmyJeffers let your man know - there's some serious flexing going on in here.

Lumpenproletariat. I ask you.

Simple marx innit? Don't they teach it in Liverpool's schools anymore? What kind of socialist utopia are you running down there?
Honestly.

 

[Seanjd]

I am starting to wonder just how organic the attacks on the Asylum hotels were. Or if certain groups decided to go for ones that might not be too well policed and were in the public eye?

Yeah the Tamworth one was definitely in the public eye. There's a video of James Cleverly stood outside it during the election saying that Labour aren't going to 'stop the boats'.

 

[The T-Dex]

Simple marx innit? Don't they teach it in Liverpool's schools anymore? What kind of socialist utopia are you running down there?
Honestly.

Even doing sociology (yes I know) for my a levels years ago, this never came up once.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What frustrates me about the MP saying about not wanting refugees in her constituency is the following

https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/work/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/03/Local-Skills-Report-Tees-Valley-March-202115-06-21-1.pdf

This shows that her constituency is suffering from a clear skills gap that is holding back the economy. We also know that around half of refugees in the UK have tertiary qualifications. We also know for a fact that attracting UK citizens with a tertiary qualification is difficult because the locals like to burn and loot things, which isn't that attractive.

Yet, despite all of this, these dumb shits can't put two and two together.