Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

[Bruce Wayne]

That's a grim number of people saying yes.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Another child stabbed today in London ….. in broad daylight in busy Leicester Square….. wonder why nobody has commented about it on social media and why people aren’t out defending our children and making the streets safe ???

I've seen so many right-wing loons on X suggest that it's fake news because a Muslim fella reportedly stepped in to try and prevent the attack...

 

[Billy Dean]

That's a grim number of people saying yes.

Yes very. Not sure what kind of sample was taken for that though

 

[Chewbacca]

Yes very. Not sure what kind of sample was taken for that though

A non- Workingmens Club in Stoke

 

[edge]

Yes very. Not sure what kind of sample was taken for that though

1200 + people not really a lot still a bit shocking people think violence is the answer .

 

[twoblue]

That's a grim number of people saying yes.

We asked 1700 people in Tamworth / Burnley / Middlesbrough

 

[Harryflashman]

I know more than most that people make mistakes and I appreciate a couple of the rioters haven’t really been in trouble before but when you look at the sentencing most of them are hardly what you’d call paragons of virtue . Two of them up this morning had nearly 100 convictions between them including sexual assault .

There is a real madness to these belters pontificating about protecting society and specifically women and children .

 

[davek]

I know more than most that people make mistakes and I appreciate a couple of the rioters haven’t really been in trouble before but when you look at the sentencing most of them are hardly what you’d call paragons of virtue . Two of them up this morning had nearly 100 convictions between them including sexual assault .

There is a real madness to these belters pontificating about protecting society and specifically women and children .

I'd like to know how many arrested are actually members or associated with far right groups.

IMO the vast majority of them will be scallies taking an opportunity to cause mayhem without a clue about far right politics.

That would underline the cynicism of the recent mass arrests. There's been an attempt here, I would venture, to decouple the scallies from the hard core of hardened racist street gangs, the short lived unity of which had the coppers and politicians concerned.

The more difficult thing but more effective thing to do would have been to have outlawed the EDL after the Southport riot and rounded up all its leaders in the aftermath in the coming days of riots.

This government dont have the stomach for that though. That's why, for all the grandstanding of the politicians and coppers and their 'law and order' solution it was down to the trade unions and left wing anti-racist organisations to swamp the streets and get the far right to stand down. But the far right will be back and the left - under attack from 'Labour' - will eventually be weakened to a point when it cant operate.

 

[efcste97]

I don't agree with everything she says but she's spot on here

 

[tsubaki]

I don't agree with everything she says but she's spot on here

Partially, though she is betraying a bit of ignorance of what life is like outside of London - a lot of the local things she claims no longer exist do actually exist (and have the effect she wants to have) in many places.

 

[efcste97]

Partially, though she is betraying a bit of ignorance of what life is like outside of London - a lot of the local things she claims no longer exist do actually exist (and have the effect she wants to have) in many places.

Some prosperous rural towns maintain traditions and customs that are often absent in deindustrialized areas that have been left behind. You'll be lucky to find a open independent shop in some northern towns.

 

[tsubaki]

Some prosperous rural towns maintain traditions and customs that are often absent in deindustrialized areas that have been left behind. You'll be lucky to find a open independent shop in some northern towns.

It is much more widespread than that - take Buckley for example, almost completely deindustrialized now and with a largely dead town centre and yet the Jubilee continues. Most towns and villages have their own cricket / football teams, at least one pub, even Conservative Clubs still and whilst church attendance has declined a lot since the boomers came of age it has probably reached its lowest ebb and may (Catholics especially, who are approaching being the largest Christian group in the country again) be slowly ticking back up.

I agree with her wider point about this, but she is wrong to say these things have gone.

 

[summerisle]

I'd like to know how many arrested are actually members or associated with far right groups.

IMO the vast majority of them will be scallies taking an opportunity to cause mayhem without a clue about far right politics.

That would underline the cynicism of the recent mass arrests. There's been an attempt here, I would venture, to decouple the scallies from the hard core of hardened racist street gangs, the short lived unity of which had the coppers and politicians concerned.

The more difficult thing but more effective thing to do would have been to have outlawed the EDL after the Southport riot and rounded up all its leaders in the aftermath in the coming days of riots.

This government dont have the stomach for that though. That's why, for all the grandstanding of the politicians and coppers and their 'law and order' solution it was down to the trade unions and left wing anti-racist organisations to swamp the streets and get the far right to stand down. But the far right will be back and the left - under attack from 'Labour' - will eventually be weakened to a point when it cant operate.

The EDL appears to have fractured into different factions, so banning it would have little effect.

Does the English Defence League still exist, and could it be banned in the UK?

Angela Rayner said the Home Secretary will "be looking at" whether the English Defence League should be banned in law. But what - if anything - is left of the organisation is in a very different state to when it was founded.

news.sky.com

 

[efcste97]

 

[mistuhp]

A little bit disappointed that the secret barrister person did not at least spare a sentence to mention that Andy Ngô, a person born and raised in Portland who has lived pretty much his entire life on the West Coast of the USA, gives interviews with a fake supposed English accent.

Also, Andy Ngo is a fake journalist and a danger to our community who provides kill lists to Atomwaffen.