Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness
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Marius57
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I’ve been up here for about 10 years now. Wonderful place generally but yeah, some real forgotten areas.
So much for levelling up. Think it’s the part of the country that receives the least money from government per person or something.
Also some of the whitest parts of the country with the least amount of immigration but real anger about it (probably linked to receiving the least money and the right wing media headlines about money spent on asylum seekers etc).
NilSatisOptimum
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Yeah, I'm genuine surprised it hasn't kicked off in the Midlands too. Lots of post-industrial towns with neighbourhoods thst haven't really recovered. Maybe they all bussed out to Southport and Sunderland.
mightymoyes
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Citizens advice are enemies of the people now 
Seanjd
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I'm just not sure it is quite as 'organised' as this. I don't buy into the idea that groups are being brought in and told to fight; I think a lot of these riots are taking place in areas of and with surrounding areas of high deprivation and poverty, which, as we know, is the perfect breeding ground for extreme views. It seems that many of the men arrested after the Southport riots were local and from surrounding areas. The videos from Sunderland are full of local accents and even football shirts linked to the area. Don't get me wrong, there clearly are influential people organisations sparking them, but then the local herd follows.
The level of poverty in these types of areas across the country has been steadily increasing over the years, accelerated over the last 14, and you're left with people who don't do well academically, have drink and drug problems, are low paid or unemployed, grow up with adverse childhood experiences and ultimately are being exploited by the likes of Farage, the right of the Tory party, online grifters and russian bots. When you're living in poverty and the nuances and reasons of why aren't discussed properly, then there's the constant drip drip of anti immigration rhetoric supplied by social media and much of the mainstream media, it's absolutely no surprise that it doesn't take much to cause an explosion.
wainy
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What an inspirational fella. I do worry the genie is out the bottle though now.
This tends to be the case. Are people travelling to these demonstrations? Yes. Is there manipulation by outside agencies attempting to subvert authority? Yes.
But, I would say that the vast majority involved are locals with right-wing or extremist tendencies combined with youths enjoying the opportunity to cause havoc.
People are being opportunistic - using this as a means to have a drink, tear up the town and scrap with the cops - all in the name of supposed concerns.
It is going to reach a point where the only way to really subdue these uprisings is to meet them toe-to-toe.
"these are your authorities, ignoring your concerns and condemning you for them, every drop of english blood spilt here is a crusade for justice for our cause, we will never be silenced, this is our country, our patriots, they can beat us, and lock us up, but our noble knights stand for freedom in the face of such oppression, we are many and we will never surrender, fight fight fight..."
It's already scripted. It is easier to capitalise on the negativity of isolation and hatred than it is to unite under a common good.
Social media, such as it is, isn't about engagement as innocent and honest as is presented, it doesn't give everyone a voice, it is a direct line for the owners to advertise directly to the singular consumer, to track and trace and target a tailor made message to fully extract the required goal, once it was money, now it is the hearts and minds of the ignorant, the disenfranchised, the lost, the forgotten.
"Society doesn't care about you, it considers you worthless, but the church of hatred and bigotry values you, and there's lots in the congregation that you can share in the brotherhood alongside, belonging, identity, purpose, a direction for your effort and thoughts... join us..."
The negative impacts were never considered to begin with re social media, and the politicians and societal analysts and commentators were very slow to realise the mass harm about to/being unleashed. Like everything touched by humanity, it was corrupted and became the ends for the powerful and the wealthy.
There is only despair left.
@Rita_Poon of course they're going to try and twist the narrative: they're already talking about protests such as BLM etc. not being policed like their own.
What they conveniently ignore is both the threat level their protests provide, and how their rhetoric dripping in racism, xenophobia and fear is so poisonous.
My point being that you can't really reason or rationalise with such dross, and more so when the likes of Farage and Yaxley-Lennon keep fuelling the fire.
Sadly, all I can see is that a successful way of subduing the conflict they're bringing is being more robust and putting them back in their shells.
I'd much rather this be dealt with peacefully through discussion and compromise, yet they want neither.
What they conveniently ignore is both the threat level their protests provide, and how their rhetoric dripping in racism, xenophobia and fear is so poisonous.
My point being that you can't really reason or rationalise with such dross, and more so when the likes of Farage and Yaxley-Lennon keep fuelling the fire.
Sadly, all I can see is that a successful way of subduing the conflict they're bringing is being more robust and putting them back in their shells.
I'd much rather this be dealt with peacefully through discussion and compromise, yet they want neither.
I appreciate that. The trick to discussion and compromise is all sides having a stake in the bigger picture. Fighting against someone with nothing means they have nothing to lose. In a world of such plenty so many have so little. This is the crux of it. And the more their elders get their noses rubbed in the fact the easier it is to bring up the following generations resigned to immediate defeat all the same. We've suffered 14 years of division and exclusion, and the rewards for such are now being mobilised for realisation. The scum (torys) are desperate for labour to send the police* in on horseback with truncheons to echo the miners confrontations. Nothing sweeps clean like your mortal enemy following your lead.
"Death and destruction? It aint on our watch, you'll never guess what, I'm alright Jack!"
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