Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

[twoblue]

Blunt truth is these people are just very very thick.

The LBC hosts point is so painfully basic and obvious and the guy still can't grasp it lol

This is level of it.

It them racists fancy kicking off in Birmingham good luck to them but they probably need to examine the plan

If it kicks off in Birmingham it will spark something bigger.
Extremism on both sides will feel justified at even increasing violence.

 

[COYBL25]

Why do so many of the 'patriots' seem to have a long list of previous convictions?

Because they were already violent criminals ?

 

[efcste97]

 

[PSB1]

Once all this dies down,as it will, we're left with the problem of what to do with the poorly educated, partly criminalised under employed people who form the "underclass" - a term I dislike but use in the absence of another.

I've read on here that they're 'sewer rats' and 'sub human'. I suggest that they're human and part of a tradition of people who've existed since way back when. Bread and circuses worked to a point for the Romans and useful as cannon fodder thousands of years, we don't currently have an approach which touches the people who have little or no stake in the progression of society.

Punish those guilty of organising / taking part in these disgraceful events.

And then ... ?

Hopefuly there are people with vision to begin dealing with the problem or, as sure as eggs are eggs, it will eventually come back stronger and even better organised.

 

[twoblue]

400 arrested. How about packing them off to Rwanda?

Would make a great race acrross
The world.
400 patriots sent to Rwanda and have to get back to the Uk following migrant routes and boats
Edit - while being followed by bbc camera men

 

[gonetomorrow]

Would make a great race acrross
The world.
400 patriots sent to Rwanda and have to get back to the Uk following migrant routes and boats

Or they stay and create a wonderful new country, like the convicts did in Australia and that. History repeating itself innit?

 

[JLW]

Once all this dies down,as it will, we're left with the problem of what to do with the poorly educated, partly criminalised under employed people who form the "underclass" - a term I dislike but use in the absence of another.

I've read on here that they're 'sewer rats' and 'sub human'. I suggest that they're human and part of a tradition of people who've existed since way back when. Bread and circuses worked to a point for the Romans and useful as cannon fodder thousands of years, we don't currently have an approach which touches the people who have little or no stake in the progression of society.

Punish those guilty of organising / taking part in these disgraceful events.

And then ... ?

Hopefuly there are people with vision to begin dealing with the problem or, as sure as eggs are eggs, it will eventually come back stronger and even better organised.

Im not too sure this dies down anytime soon, its escalating more day by day.

Its shocking that people from all sides that people are fearing to walk the streets now, someone will be killed soon!
Its a disgrace and i fear that this is only going to make the UK a very unsafe place for people of all colours and religion.

 

[kenada_blue]

Once all this dies down,as it will, we're left with the problem of what to do with the poorly educated, partly criminalised under employed people who form the "underclass" - a term I dislike but use in the absence of another.

I've read on here that they're 'sewer rats' and 'sub human'. I suggest that they're human and part of a tradition of people who've existed since way back when. Bread and circuses worked to a point for the Romans and useful as cannon fodder thousands of years, we don't currently have an approach which touches the people who have little or no stake in the progression of society.

Punish those guilty of organising / taking part in these disgraceful events.

And then ... ?

Hopefuly there are people with vision to begin dealing with the problem or, as sure as eggs are eggs, it will eventually come back stronger and even better organised.

You don't. It's always going to be there as we're a class driven society where it's nothing to with intelligence but all down to upbringing and choice. Everyone has a smart phone. Not everyone uses it to decipher fact or fiction, to progress in a positive direction. If you're in a town that's a certain way, you'll grow up that way unless you make a choice.

It's all a cycle and has been for generations especially when it comes to religion and race. It'll flare up and die down every decade depending on what grifter in some sort of power wants to rally the "alienated" for their own gain.

But let's have it right...this is less frequent, small numbers, than previous decades (mainly the 70s and 80s). More of them will be arrested and punished too.

Racism isn't going away and won't go away. Allowing influencers to gain control is the only thing you can do to curb it

 

[twoblue]

Once all this dies down,as it will, we're left with the problem of what to do with the poorly educated, partly criminalised under employed people who form the "underclass" - a term I dislike but use in the absence of another.

I've read on here that they're 'sewer rats' and 'sub human'. I suggest that they're human and part of a tradition of people who've existed since way back when. Bread and circuses worked to a point for the Romans and useful as cannon fodder thousands of years, we don't currently have an approach which touches the people who have little or no stake in the progression of society.

Punish those guilty of organising / taking part in these disgraceful events.

And then ... ?

Hopefuly there are people with vision to begin dealing with the problem or, as sure as eggs are eggs, it will eventually come back stronger and even better organised.

Education and regional investment are pathways out of poverty.

This is a lost generation. Schools wasting time teaching worthless grammar that my generation don’t even know. It means nothing, disenfrachises them from education. The purpose of education is that is should enable good citizens that can contribute positively to society. In some areas schools are holding cells.

the current national curriculum creates failures early on.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I see the Lush looting bath bomb bandit crusader is clearly visible joining in the attack on the asian guys in the BMW in Hull the other day (see video in the link):

How Asian men in a BMW were attacked during violence in Hull.

Footage of an angry crowd swarming around a car and targeting its occupants is analysed by BBC Verify.

www.bbc.com

 

[kenada_blue]

Im not too sure this dies down anytime soon, its escalating more day by day.

Its shocking that people from all sides that people are fearing to walk the streets now, someone will be killed soon!
Its a disgrace and i fear that this is only going to make the UK a very unsafe place for people of all colours and religion.

It'll die down the minute Starmer takes the leash off the police force. Which he will.

The only problem I'm worried about is retaliation from Muslim communities. Which have slowly creeped up in areas and bound to happen.

 

[tsubaki]

Once all this dies down,as it will, we're left with the problem of what to do with the poorly educated, partly criminalised under employed people who form the "underclass" - a term I dislike but use in the absence of another.

I've read on here that they're 'sewer rats' and 'sub human'. I suggest that they're human and part of a tradition of people who've existed since way back when. Bread and circuses worked to a point for the Romans and useful as cannon fodder thousands of years, we don't currently have an approach which touches the people who have little or no stake in the progression of society.

Punish those guilty of organising / taking part in these disgraceful events.

And then ... ?

Hopefuly there are people with vision to begin dealing with the problem or, as sure as eggs are eggs, it will eventually come back stronger and even better organised.

The problem we have is that these people are, and have been historically, precisely the sort of people who work with fascism and other hyper-authoritarian groups. Many of the Kapos in the concentration camps were criminals, and the political prisoners gulag system were deliberately terrorised by criminals housed with them for that purpose.

We’ve been far too tolerant of crime for far too long; some people seem to believe it’s a valid means of making a living and that they should be respected members of society. Look at all the podcasts and Insta characters celebrating the status of the gangster, of the crazy antics they get up to.

The state should absolutely be looking to get people to have proper access to education, safe and affordable housing and secure work but it (and society generally) should be intolerant of crime generally and habitual criminals in particular.

 

[Hackbread]

Look at all the podcasts and Insta characters celebrating the status of the gangster, of the crazy antics they get up to.

Never understood this trend.

Listening some violent ex thug bigging up themselves and their crimes or prison experiences, while some absolute wet wipe cosies up to them.

 

[PSB1]

The problem we have is that these people are, and have been historically, precisely the sort of people who work with fascism and other hyper-authoritarian groups. Many of the Kapos in the concentration camps were criminals, and the political prisoners gulag system were deliberately terrorised by criminals housed with them for that purpose.

We’ve been far too tolerant of crime for far too long; some people seem to believe it’s a valid means of making a living and that they should be respected members of society. Look at all the podcasts and Insta characters celebrating the status of the gangster, of the crazy antics they get up to.

The state should absolutely be looking to get people to have proper access to education, safe and affordable housing and secure work but it (and society generally) should be intolerant of crime generally and habitual criminals in particular.

Absolutely. Criminals should be punished appropriately. Doing this though only adds to the sum of the residual problem: with criminal checks in place, younger people in particular are denying themselves whatever slim chance they had of entering the regular job market. Which leads to further criminality.

Your point about the fascisst link is one I left unsaid. Use the label when it's helpful etc.

 

[Joey66]

Or they stay and create a wonderful new country, like the convicts did in Australia and that. History repeating itself innit?

The guy who murdered the poor 3 children in Southport born in Britain parents from Rwanda - As 20 years or so they had to flee as then it was an unsafe country depending on which Government are in ... That's why our courts claimed Rwanda is a volatile, unsafe country .... why he did that act is another question born in Cardiff living up North ?

Plus last night, Birmingham had anti EDL protesters on the streets, some armed wearing masks - as they had information the EDL were ready to arrive - no police presence what's so ever - a bit of serious trouble arose - every group amassing on UK streets has to be policed - whatever gathering takes place as violence as it did in spasms broke out in Birmingham last night - I can understand the frenzy of thinking their area was going to be attacked by EDL nutjobs, but the police have to control any such event .... as we are a multicultural society & have been for many years ...
We need official immigration for everyone as we have a massive skill shortage in Hospitals etc etc via our lack of decent training for our own population ATM it's just not happening - Labours pledge is to alter this situation ....