Priorities - the league or a tilt at silverware?

What should Everton focus on this season?

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Daveysgingerlovechild said:
As requested by @LinekersLegs ...

Do you think the priority this season is league placing? Or should Moyes go hell for leather to break the 30 year duck?

A quick saccharine high or longer term progress, possibly Europe and building a platform?

There is a middle path, but that is no fun. Polarising opinions are in.
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Groucho said:
Our bread and butter will always be top flight league presence.
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Groucho said:
Not really what I was getting at
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OK, I apologise if I misunderstood. I've included your earlier comment and the post to which you responded. If prioritising our league survival, what I described as making up the numbers, over attempting to win a cup wasn't what you meant by "our bread and butter" then what did you mean?
 
windymiller said:
OK, I apologise if I misunderstood. I've included your earlier comment and the post to which you responded. If prioritising our league survival, what I described as making up the numbers, over attempting to win a cup wasn't what you meant by "our bread and butter" then what did you mean?
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I’ve said that it’s shouldn’t be a binary choice of one or the other. We should try to win every game we play.

However if the choice was stay in the top flight or win a cup and go down, we’d take the league option.

But it’s not a binary thing. We should be getting back to the view of aiming to win everything we enter.
 

Cels said:
We should enter every competition with the attitude that we are going to win it. I don't understand the mentality of some of our fans who seem to think we are above winning the Carabao Cup, while at the same time complaining that we haven't won a trophy in 30 years.
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Its not even really about one or the other, its about the next game..
 
I think the league games are more important this year. Reason - Because I would be assessing by giving it a right go, to see truly how far we are off Top 6 and Europe and what/who's needed to get to that level. I have this argument with my Man Utd ST mate all the time, and tell him Utd are at least 4 transfer windows behind Arsenal Liverpool City and Chelsea with the amount of money their making in Champs Lge, to even compete where monies never a problem in buying players. At the moment, we are light years from getting there.
 
Swartzy said:
Its not even really about one or the other, its about the next game..
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I’m a big believer in mentality and confidence playing a part in results. You win a few games, including cup games, and players feel a bit brighter, willing to try a shot rather than a tame recycling of the ball backwards, might be willing to run down a stray ball a bit harder etc
 
LinekersLegs said:
I’m a big believer in mentality and confidence playing a part in results. You win a few games, including cup games, and players feel a bit brighter, willing to try a shot rather than a tame recycling of the ball backwards, might be willing to run down a stray ball a bit harder etc
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Yeah exactly that.. you could of put that post at the start of the thread to sum it all up. Cos the whole debate of which is more important is pretty silly, play to win your next game, whatever it is..

Players need hope/belief as much as fans..
 

If Palace could win the FA Cup with their squad then our best 11 should have a crack. We've been unlucky in the last few league fixtures, bad ref decisions etc.. League-wise I said if we could win the derby we'd have to consider a title fight... unfortunately the points gap at the top means it's all but settled already. But we're in decent shape compared to other big teams.

Everyone's sussing City's system finally, they've gone from a squad of finishers to relying on a tap-in striker. Forest played a blinder last year, loved the brand of football they were trying but between European fixture congestion and the new manager's style they will struggle. Villa are being punished for being poor upfront, injuries and losing decent players (more to go with PSR). Ironically I think they'll boss their European fixtures.

Point I'm making is Moyes is playing a good brand of football, we strengthened the spine of the squad with Tim and Ndiaye last season, this season we've improved the front line with Alcaraz, Grealish, KDH, Dibling and Rohl potentially. Everton's Kryptonite is always our most important players getting injured. Strong league finish and win the FA Cup I hope.
 
I'd almost take 17th and an FA Cup this season. What have we achieved in the last 30 years? Bobbing about the PL with a handful of memorable victories? Since 2000 we haven't won a league or cup game at Chelsea, Arsenal* or Liverpool* (*not counting empty stadia). One victory at Man Utd. We've been on the end of numerous hammerings to bigger teams, as well as some not so glamorous. Haven't beaten City since that 4-0.

If you were to put together a list of our greatest matches / achievements since 1995 what would it include? Beating Utd on penalties in the semi? The multiple last day survivals? Putting 7 past Southampton or Sunderland? Sporadic derby wins? It's pitiful.

People keep talking about Portsmouth, Wigan or maybe even Swansea who all won a trophy but then disappeared. They are not clubs like us. We are supposedly a sleeping giant. A league founder member. Ever present in the top flight. We should be winning trophies and competing in the league. Instead we're a pushover. A soft touch. A team that helps those in bad form find their feet. We're insipid. Harmless.

Why? Because of our weak mentality. Our inferiority complex. The only thing that would change that is a cup. THATS why it's important we get this monkey off our back. I'd take 17th and the FA Cup. We're not Wigan or Portsmouth. It would propel us back to glory.
 

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