Poll: Will Everton get a World-Record transfer fee for Lukaku?

[Kenshin]

It's been said many times that Poch didn't want to sell Gylfi but a deal had already been agreed.

But yeh, I understand your point.

Thing is, accept that current, that's where we're at. We can shop abroad and it looks like we are doing, but still those aren't going to be players from 'big' or currently extremely good European clubs - unless they're 'cast offs'.

Schneiderlin was a 'cast off', and he's probably our best player after Rom as it stands.

I really don't understand why people worry about where the players come from. If they're good enough they're good enough.

it isn't about being good enough it is attitude. Players experienced in losing forming a core of a squad who then suddenly want to be winning? That is where i see the negative in doing it after last summer.

It isn't even a matter of cost in all honesty, paying 22 million for Bolasie proves that shopping there isn't any cheaper than going somewhere else.

I just believe the idea of shopping at the bottom breeds the lack of success that we have maintained for so long. We need to be identifying who are the right players to come here, not the easiest to negotiate with which i think was true to some deals last summer.

 

[degsy]

We won't have to take off what we 'still owe' Chelsea.

It doesn't work like that.

how does it work then sm

 

[KaiserEFC]

If he goes, £50m nailed on

 

[hktoffee]

Where is the Arteta money Bill?

 

[Hickson9]

£72m.

 

[Tramps_mate]

I reckon £55 million plus Batsuichy or A.N. Other.

 

[Wizard]

I imagine the deal will be of a potential value of over £80m. So maybe £70-75m up front with add ons for league titles, Champions League, Ballon d'Or (seems to be a new favourite in contracts) etc.

Or it will be around £60m and we'll get Michy Batshuayi who they probably value at around £25-30m.

 

[BlueToff]

how does it work then sm

Well given it's a separate deal from years ago and it's nearly paid off anyway I'd imagine they'd just be done as separate deals and kept that way.

There doesn't really seem a need to complicate a deal that will already be extremely complicated?

Anyway, I don't think we'd accept anything less than 80m anyway.

 

[B17BLG]

Stinking the place out he is.

 

[ClausThomsen]

it isn't about being good enough it is attitude. Players experienced in losing forming a core of a squad who then suddenly want to be winning? That is where i see the negative in doing it after last summer.

It isn't even a matter of cost in all honesty, paying 22 million for Bolasie proves that shopping there isn't any cheaper than going somewhere else.

I just believe the idea of shopping at the bottom breeds the lack of success that we have maintained for so long. We need to be identifying who are the right players to come here, not the easiest to negotiate with which i think was true to some deals last summer.

I think that places a little too much stock in a player having a simple loser/winner mindset.

Leicester won the league with players from a near relegated squad and in the same season Chelsea went on a dreadful run with players vastly experienced in winning big competitions. Momentum and belief are things that can be turned around in a very short space of time given the right conditions and even the best players and squads with a "winning" attitude are capable of completely switching off given the wrong conditons.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

60-70 million.

Don't think enough clubs are interested for us to be able to push for much more, and I doubt the club will want to keep a player who wants out when they're being offered that sort of money.

 

[Kenshin]

I think that places a little too much stock in a player having a simple loser/winner mindset.

Leicester won the league with players from a near relegated squad and in the same season Chelsea went on a dreadful run with players vastly experienced in winning big competitions. Momentum and belief are things that can be turned around in a very short space of time given the right conditions and even the best players and squads with a "winning" attitude are capable of completely switching off given the wrong conditons.

no doubt that is true. But the examples you give are the short term examples not long term. Leicester won the league because they started the season, got a few wins going, won a big game and then carried on for the next 7 months on a bounce of sorts where everything worked and they just kept winning. similarly chelsea there are theories but the opposite happened and when they weren't getting the results they were expecting it carried on.

I suggest long term effects, with players who don't know how to really win being grouped together. I am not saying anyone who hasn't won something, i mean the players who are used to relegation or battling it where the mentality is so different to what we need.

This is all my own opinion and i could be wrong in what i say by all means. I just believe there is a difference between a team of players who Know what success is and how to get it and ones who don't and are used to failure.

I mean, now it has popped in my head, Bassong. Every club he joined went down, he wasn't that good of a player mind you but he wasn't exactly firing the lads up at the back neither!

 

[mahermi1]

TBH who cares, I don't care if Everton have a great bank balance, just want to see all this money and a lot more, wisely invested in our squad ASAP.

 

[evertony]

just a thought....Lukakus agent may well have been charged with providing Lukakus replacement as part of the 'agreement'....he does have a finger in every single pie and influence with lots of clubs.

Does he have anyone decent on his books?

 

[Fansince1988]

60-70 million I think

That's not enough, make another team pay up if not let him stew. £80m the very least but should be more just to be awkward and show him we are boss of the situation.