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[Lord Buckethead]

Why can't I take my two kids to see their grandparents, in their home, but we can all go get pissed together if we want in a pub full of random people?
Science?
Bollocks

Get your Grandparents to install a Cash Register and charge you 5p an hour.

Boris would have no problems with you visiting then.

 

[PhilM]

Signed. I really don't understand why fans aren't back already. I was on a plane to the Canaries a few weeks back. The plane was full, so no social distancing. The ventilation system means that all the air breathed is recycled again and again, but the medical officers and government are obviously happy that it is considered safe.

So tell me how being in a semi-outdoor space which is what the stadium is would pose a problem?

Provided the clubs are sensible and don't demand season ticket holders have to return if they don't feel comfortable. I don't understand what the 'science' apparently is that is preventing this.

This is all based on a full capacity:

I sit in the Gwladys Street, which has a capacity of 10,611. There are from recollection seventeen turnstiles, so that's 624 people passing through each 3ft space.

You then have this number of people leaving through a small number of larger exit gates post-match, with arguably a smaller period of time to allow movement.

A Boeing 737 Max, newest of small planes, has a maximum seating of 200ish, which is at maximum capacity based on reduced legroom at full capacity.

Then you have congestion points including toilets, stairs and refreshments, and that's before considering contamination of said areas through physical contact.

Planning wise, it won't happen. That's before considering how thousands of people have died and will continue to die without having stadiums open, so...

 

[tommye]

This is all based on a full capacity:

I sit in the Gwladys Street, which has a capacity of 10,611. There are from recollection seventeen turnstiles, so that's 624 people passing through each 3ft space.

You then have this number of people leaving through a small number of larger exit gates post-match, with arguably a smaller period of time to allow movement.

A Boeing 737 Max, newest of small planes, has a maximum seating of 200ish, which is at maximum capacity based on reduced legroom at full capacity.

Then you have congestion points including toilets, stairs and refreshments, and that's before considering contamination of said areas through physical contact.

Planning wise, it won't happen. That's before considering how thousands of people have died and will continue to die without having stadiums open, so...

Open the damn doors

 

[Lord Buckethead]

Open the damn doors

The Plane would crash then

 

[Igloo1]

This is all based on a full capacity:

I sit in the Gwladys Street, which has a capacity of 10,611. There are from recollection seventeen turnstiles, so that's 624 people passing through each 3ft space.

You then have this number of people leaving through a small number of larger exit gates post-match, with arguably a smaller period of time to allow movement.

A Boeing 737 Max, newest of small planes, has a maximum seating of 200ish, which is at maximum capacity based on reduced legroom at full capacity.

Then you have congestion points including toilets, stairs and refreshments, and that's before considering contamination of said areas through physical contact.

Planning wise, it won't happen. That's before considering how thousands of people have died and will continue to die without having stadiums open, so...

None of those issues are in dispute though. I'm simply asking how is there more risk than in the equivalent with flying with all those passengers equally going through the same points in an airport, on escalators, through turnstiles, through check-in, through security, queuing up at the gate etc?

Are you telling me the science is different (and worse) for stadiums rather than an airport and the plane?

 

[Goat]

None of those issues are in dispute though. I'm simply asking how is there more risk than in the equivalent with flying with all those passengers equally going through the same points in an airport, on escalators, through turnstiles, through check-in, through security, queuing up at the gate etc?

Are you telling me the science is different (and worse) for stadiums rather than an airport and the plane?

People have to travel by plane.

People don't have to attend football matches.

 

[tommye]

People have to travel by plane.

People don't have to attend football matches.

That's a completely nothing answer

 

[Goat]

That's a completely nothing answer

If people don't know the difference between a plane carrying 200 people and a stadium containing 40,000 who am I to educate them, when clearly 15 years of education failed.

 

[tommye]

If people don't know the difference between a plane carrying 200 people and a stadium containing 40,000 who am I to educate them, when clearly 15 years of education failed.

The numbers are neither here nor there.
It's the, ahem, science that's the issue

 

[Goat]

The numbers are neither here nor there.
It's the, ahem, science that's the issue

Surely its basic math?

40,000 is greater than 200.

 

[tommye]

Surely its basic math?

40,000 is greater than 200.

Genius you lad.


That 15 years was worth it after all

 

[Goat]

Genius you lad.


That 15 years was worth it after all

I did an extra 6 months in college, I think that helps

 

[tommye]

I did an extra 6 months in college, I think that helps

Defo the clincher.

 

[Igloo1]

People have to travel by plane.

People don't have to attend football matches.

Just goes to show then that the rules aren't based on science, which is all I was pointing out.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Sounds promising for a vaccine by the end of the year from what I have heard, however by the time the logistics of vaccinating and also I would think we may all require cards to carry which register we have been inoculated,I think this season is a write off for us match goers, I am hoping we may ALL be back in Goodison at the start of next season, but what do I know hey?