Players leaving Everton going to pot

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.....A genuine world great like Ronaldo and Messi rather than "one of Fergie's workhorses".

Stretford might have made Wayne a lot of money....but he cost him his place among the truly great players.

Some, maybe even Rooney himself, won't be able to see the difference between ( especially with medals and cups on the mantelpiece ) ... ' lots of money' and ' great player '

sad but true.
 
Moyes himself said the grass isn't always greener over the lescott deal if I remeber. Something he must be thinking himself now!

Most players who leave rarely kick on to be better players but then they probably don't care because they're earning more money
 
No surprise at all, bar Rooney they were "best of the rest" players at their level under Moyes.

No competition for places meant they could drift through games with impunity, acceptable here, but as Cantona once remarked "water carriers" in a team of genuine quality. Never gonna be major influences at the top tier.

Arteta - technically good but goes missing. (words of a gooner fan)
Lescott - an old fashioned stopper without the skillset to be more than a City squad player.
Rodwell - young fella with potential who never trained on.
Fellaini - Too slow athletically and in mind but useful for hoofball.
 
Hm, Gavin McCann was moderately successful. As was Richard Dunne. Both probably improved a bit, although not to the extent we'd lament them leaving.

Dacourt and Materazzi were both more successful after leaving and probably became better players, too. But that was in the hideous Johnson/Smith era, and their sales had nothing to do with their ability.

Jeffers, Ball and Rodwell all had their development curbed by injury.

Rooney's an interesting one - as much success as a player could hope for, but probably a level below the player we might've assumed he'd become. A lot of that might be to do with the majority of his development being at a club where he wasn't the only world class player, but there's also the fact he was an anomaly in the sport: a footballer who seemed close to complete at 16.
 
Michael Ball, Franny Jeffers, John Collins, Yobo, Yakubu, Beckford, AJ, Beattie, Gravesen, McFadden, Nick Barmby.

Players I can think of that left us and careers nose-dived.
 
I'm told we made a big error in letting Steve McMahon leave for Villa in the early 80s.

More like he made a big mistake in leaving. He was pretty mediocre at Villa as I remember. He did well and won a few things at Liverpool but then would probably have done just as well if he had stayed at Goodison at that time.
 
I'm told we made a big error in letting Steve McMahon leave for Villa in the early 80s.

Mcmahon said he left Everton to win things at Villa. A year later we won the FA cup, league, cup winners cup.............................Fck off Mcmahon.
 
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