Persistent standing at aways is now costing us tickets

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No, people are unable to go to the Sunderland game because of the line the club has chosen to take on standing. Reducing the seating allocation because of a single game isn't a measured response.

Got to agree with this. Absolutely no idea what it's meant to achieve.

This is an interesting read:


THE LAW ON STANDING IN ALL-SEATED GROUNDS


- Ever since the introduction of all-seater stadia, many supporters have continued to stand in
front of their seats, often for the duration of the game.

- It is widely believed that this practice is illegal. This is not the case, even within Premier
League and Championship grounds. The law only provides that these clubs should provide
seats for all supporters, not that supporters must sit on them.

- The point is confirmed by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport: ‘At no point has it
been argued that the individual spectator commits a criminal offence by standing in a seated
area’ (Source: Letter to Football Supporters Federation, 2008)

- Standing in seated areas, is, however, contrary to ground regulations. For example, the
Football League’s model set of ground regulations states: ‘Nobody may stand in any seating
area whilst play is in progress. Persistent standing in seated areas whilst play is in progress is
strictly forbidden and may result in ejection from the ground’.

- It is notable that the two rules are contradictory, the first bars all ‘standing’, the second only
‘persistent standing’. In practice, standing to go to the toilet or snack bar and standing at
‘moments of excitement’ is permitted. The boundary between ‘moments of excitement’ and
‘persistent’ is rather grey and open to very wide interpretation.



I can fully understand fans standing up and singing for a minute or two during important games; and I honestly don't come across many instances of people standing for the whole game. What do they want people to do, sit down like automatons for the entire game? Just isn't going to happen.

So to actually restrict the allocation seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and missing the nut entirely with the swing.
 
It's not the theatre either mate.

Do you regularly dance at away games ? Some Travolta's on here like






GOAL FELLAINI !






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The German league have safe standing and their atmospheres are brilliant, wish the Premier League would adopt their system of safe standing.
 
Do you regularly dance at away games ? Some Travolta's on here like






GOAL FELLAINI !






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Did you go to the game at Sunderland last year? People weren't dancing, they were singing, clapping, generating an atmosphere that ground has probably never seen before. Doesn't surprise me that they didn't like it. It was quite humiliating for them.

Do you approve of singing?
 
Did you go to the game at Sunderland last year? People weren't dancing, they were singing, clapping, generating an atmosphere that ground has probably never seen before. Doesn't surprise me that they didn't like it. It was quite humiliating for them.

Do you approve of singing?

Yes mate i was there. I have no problem with any of the above, i was simply making a lighthearted joke about the 'dancing, fist pumping' comment.

I haven't got a problem with fans singing, i do it. What i have a problem with is people standing and as a result less Blues getting to watch away games, it's bad enough when old people and kids have to suffer for 90 minutes. Until there are safe standing sections people should sit down.
 
Think you'll find it on every match ticket, persistent standing is not allowed, ie; it's against the rules. People broke the rules and the allocation has been reduced as a punishment.

That's it, black and white, no grey areas.

And judging by the fact that Sunderland have withdrawn individual season tickets from their own fans, they're capable of working out which individuals are breaking that agreement. Instead of taking a note at the time and passing it on to our end, they've decided to punish everyone. If the offenders are regulars at aways, they'll have no trouble getting tickets - it'll be fans who rely on later rounds of sale who suffer.

If the idea was to turn us against persistent standers and police it socially, it would probably work, but for the fact that it appears to only be Sunderland doing it, not the entire league. As it is, it's their club that comes out looking daft, not our fans.
 
Not even arsed.

Well worth it to stand all game last season.

Plus, no one was told to sit down at any point so...?
 
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