Penalty taker

[Fansince1988]

Baines should always take the pens and would have done, but it got messed up after Mirallas snatched the ball in the WBA game I think, that probably where things started to go wrong with Martinez, he seened to duck that issue and let them sort it out.

 

[Fansince1988]

Rom hit it well ffs De Gea made a world class save. Game over, season over, Martinez time here over, happy days ahead. His sacking will be phenomenal.

The penalty was average, he hit it ok but that was a standard save for the keeper, as a left footer he would have hit it better the other side, he was running on to it to straight, so the keeper had a good idea where it was going.

 

[matty1878]

Should always be baines.

 

[hullefc]

I wait for Lukaku to apologise for missing the penalty. He should never have been anywhere near taking the pen yesterday after the miss against West Ham.

 

[degsy]

In fairness Rom took it as I would. Pyarr blast it at him but got to give De Gea credit was a sound save, but baines should always be pen taker

yeah it was hard enough, but look again, it was much too near the keeper, all he had to do was fall over.

#don't ever take one again

 

[degsy]

When it was given ( and what were the odds on that Vs Untd?) I saw Gibbo running up with seeming conviction and my first thought was ...oh goody, not Lulakau.

 

[chrismpw]

Gents you might say am being hasty doing this straight after the whistle but this has frustrated me big time.

Why didn't banies take that pen? The episode at home to west brom last season when miralles took the ball off banies turned that season for me.

It just seems insane that banies is so reliable from the spot he doesn't take them. If someone pulls some stats out to say am wrong then I'll walk away with my tail in my bumcheeks.

 

[Caolam]

It is just another element in the mis-management of the team, we have a penalty taker who converts 15 in a row and then gets the chop when he misses one. Now if we had somebody better than Baines then that would be fine but we don't have.

 

[WycombeToffee]

Baines' miss:

Almost identical to Lukaku's (both against De Gea). Spooky.

 

[chrismpw]

Gents you might say am being hasty doing this straight after the whistle but this has frustrated me big time.

Why didn't banies take that pen? The episode at home to west brom last season when miralles took the ball off banies turned that season for me.

It just seems insane that banies is so reliable from the spot he doesn't take them. If someone pulls some stats out to say am wrong then I'll walk away with my tail in my bumcheeks.

I was shouting this at the telly myself. It really is weak management within the team. The manager should say who's the taker and that's the end of the subject. Since Baines has stopped taking them we are much more hit and miss.
Lukaku does not take good pens - but his ego does not accept it. He's a goal scorer, sure, but not enough of a team player for me.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Baines' miss:

Almost identical to Lukaku's (both against De Gea). Spooky.

Give de gea credit - he's probably the best keeper around for getting to low shots. Lukaku's penalty was better struck than Baines' but I'd still have wanted Baines taking it yesterday....Ah well.

One thing to note there....Look who's the only one following that in.

Yep. Naismith. Might not have been the best technically, but nobody can deny he was always ready to gamble and was aware of what was going on. That seems to have been eradicated from most of our players under the martinez junta.

 

[royalblue66]

I wait for Lukaku to apologise for missing the penalty. He should never have been anywhere near taking the pen yesterday after the miss against West Ham.

No leadership on or off the pitch,but I wasn't surprised ,Everton ain't we.

 

[blueblue]

I didn't understand then and I don't understand now why the penalty duties were taken off Baines.
That is two penalties missed by Lukaku this season alone.
More penalty misses than Baines has had in a decade.

 

[trebilcock66]

I think the problem we saw yesterday exists in the players heads. We saw it on Wednesday evening as well.

The team isn't playing well at the moment. It happens to all teams. So the players feel under pressure to do better. And in trying too hard to do that, they snatch at chances or make rash passes or tackles.

Funes Mori was the most obvious offender last week. But there were others. Some of them let the tension get to them and consequently underperform. Mirallas' disgraceful tackle on Suarez a few seasons ago was another example

Lukaku ran up to that pen yesterday too quickly. You can see the tension in his shoulders. Same with the chances he had first half...first touch was too tense. Relax and play to your potential lad....

I feel that Barkley too is playing as if he's weighed down by expectation.

Why do we not play as well at home? Could be that the expectation of the crowd - fuelled by decades of underachievement - communicates to the players.

All of which is not unusual. All elite sportsmen and women have to live with that. But it's the coaches job to protect them and teach them how to perform under pressure.

Clive Woodward used a well known little acronym to help England players to win the Rugby World Cup. T-Cup: Think Correctly Under Pressure.

How did he give that to the players? My understanding is that it was practice, practice, practice. So that; when the crucial moment came in a match such as a key scrum (or a penalty in a football game), the players could relax and treat it like a training session, shutting out the noise and anxiety of the fans and focussing on the task.

When we lost top Lpool in the 2012 semi, I bemoaned David Moyes' unwillingness to let the players express themselves, so they went into the second half riddled with anxiety and handed the initiative back the enemy. And lost.

Yesterday was different in that we played poorly in the first half and only turned up for the second 45. All in the players minds.

Not sure what our current coach does with the players to get their heads in the right place. But I think that's the source of our current malaise.

I'm not a 'Sack Martinez' camp follower. I felt at the start of this season that he was a man with a plan. Still think so now. But he needs to get to grips with this issue and get them playing to their potential.

 

[Insanity]

I think the problem we saw yesterday exists in the players heads. We saw it on Wednesday evening as well.

The team isn't playing well at the moment. It happens to all teams. So the players feel under pressure to do better. And in trying too hard to do that, they snatch at chances or make rash passes or tackles.

Funes Mori was the most obvious offender last week. But there were others. Some of them let the tension get to them and consequently underperform. Mirallas' disgraceful tackle on Suarez a few seasons ago was another example

Lukaku ran up to that pen yesterday too quickly. You can see the tension in his shoulders. Same with the chances he had first half...first touch was too tense. Relax and play to your potential lad....

I feel that Barkley too is playing as if he's weighed down by expectation.

Why do we not play as well at home? Could be that the expectation of the crowd - fuelled by decades of underachievement - communicates to the players.

All of which is not unusual. All elite sportsmen and women have to live with that. But it's the coaches job to protect them and teach them how to perform under pressure.

Clive Woodward used a well known little acronym to help England players to win the Rugby World Cup. T-Cup: Think Correctly Under Pressure.

How did he give that to the players? My understanding is that it was practice, practice, practice. So that; when the crucial moment came in a match such as a key scrum (or a penalty in a football game), the players could relax and treat it like a training session, shutting out the noise and anxiety of the fans and focussing on the task.

When we lost top Lpool in the 2012 semi, I bemoaned David Moyes' unwillingness to let the players express themselves, so they went into the second half riddled with anxiety and handed the initiative back the enemy. And lost.

Yesterday was different in that we played poorly in the first half and only turned up for the second 45. All in the players minds.

Not sure what our current coach does with the players to get their heads in the right place. But I think that's the source of our current malaise.

I'm not a 'Sack Martinez' camp follower. I felt at the start of this season that he was a man with a plan. Still think so now. But he needs to get to grips with this issue and get them playing to their potential.