Obama

[Caolam]

A trade deal with us is in their interest.

I have heard that but why is it. If we leave the EU is that not an opportunity for other countries within the EU to develop the industries and services we now provide because there will now be a gap in the market. Do you not think Europe will look to itself rather than a country on the outside.

 

[Caolam]

I think you've answered part of it yourself. "Germany and France make all the decisions which are all contrary to our interests". This is not about being big or dominating the world. It's about being able to make choices and decisions that are in the best interests of the UK. We joined a trading club. The club now wants to become a big country, all speaking different languages, with different cultures, that ever expands (Turkey) and insists that every EU person has the right to live and work in the UK, and passes laws that come from an elite that we cannot vote out of office......we didn't vote for that back in the 70's......

So leaving is better because it can't be as bad as being in. Is that the reasoning.

 

[SNova]

I have heard that but why is it. If we leave the EU is that not an opportunity for other countries within the EU to develop the industries and services we now provide because there will now be a gap in the market. Do you not think Europe will look to itself rather than a country on the outside.

We are a big customer for the EU and they won't want to damage their own industries by introducing tariffs.

Would the Germans want to impose tariffs on their own motorcars.

 

[Caolam]

We are a big customer for the EU and they won't want to damage their own industries by introducing tariffs.

Would the Germans want to impose tariffs on their own motorcars.

Will those car companies be producing cars in a country which is outside the trading block.

 

[tsubaki]

I do wonder whether the leave campaign - or at least the Tory-led official one - are actually trying now.

You would think that Obama's comment that a post-Brexit UK would be rewarded (for its years of loyal and pointless service, and its extensive list of dead and maimed, and the billions wasted for the US in various wars) by being placed at the back of the queue when it comes to trade deals would be the thing that they all were banging on about, not that his dad was Kenyan.

 

[Old Blue 2]

So leaving is better because it can't be as bad as being in. Is that the reasoning.

My generation voted to be in a community with reference to trade.

NOT in a community where our own legal decisions are overturned; NOT when a company in the UK is in difficulties, and our Government has to seek permission of the Bureaucrats in Brussels to help them; not when our fishing industry is being continually shafted by the EU; NOT being told what we can and cannot do.

My generation has long memories, and I believe there will be a massive 'NO' vote from them. The danger for the 'IN' vote is 1) that the views of the older generation will filter down to the younger generation, and they will in turn vote 'NO', or 2) given that the younger generation are seen as being apathetic to voting, this area where the 'IN' vote are hanging their hat on getting the votes to get them over the line, may simply not turn out on the day.

Whatever happens, the forthcoming weeks, and the result, will be fascinating. A 'NO' vote will likely bring down a Prime Minister...

 

[peteblue]

My generation voted to be in a community with reference to trade.

NOT in a community where our own legal decisions are overturned; NOT when a company in the UK is in difficulties, and our Government has to seek permission of the Bureaucrats in Brussels to help them; not when our fishing industry is being continually shafted by the EU; NOT being told what we can and cannot do.

My generation has long memories, and I believe there will be a massive 'NO' vote from them. The danger for the 'IN' vote is 1) that the views of the older generation will filter down to the younger generation, and they will in turn vote 'NO', or 2) given that the younger generation are seen as being apathetic to voting, this area where the 'IN' vote are hanging their hat on getting the votes to get them over the line, may simply not turn out on the day.

Whatever happens, the forthcoming weeks, and the result, will be fascinating. A 'NO' vote will likely bring down a Prime Minister...

Exactly. And being told by Obama what to do will not serve the remain vote......

 

[peteblue]

Will those car companies be producing cars in a country which is outside the trading block.

Why not ?......

 

[peteblue]

So leaving is better because it can't be as bad as being in. Is that the reasoning.

Works for me........

 

[SNova]

My generation voted to be in a community with reference to trade.

NOT in a community where our own legal decisions are overturned; NOT when a company in the UK is in difficulties, and our Government has to seek permission of the Bureaucrats in Brussels to help them; not when our fishing industry is being continually shafted by the EU; NOT being told what we can and cannot do.

My generation has long memories, and I believe there will be a massive 'NO' vote from them. The danger for the 'IN' vote is 1) that the views of the older generation will filter down to the younger generation, and they will in turn vote 'NO', or 2) given that the younger generation are seen as being apathetic to voting, this area where the 'IN' vote are hanging their hat on getting the votes to get them over the line, may simply not turn out on the day.

Whatever happens, the forthcoming weeks, and the result, will be fascinating. A 'NO' vote will likely bring down a Prime Minister...

It's strange really the eurosceptics in other countries are the young.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Exactly. And being told by Obama what to do will not serve the remain vote......

Quite right. Although not stated publicly, I think quite a few in the 'IN' camp quietly shat themselves when he came out with saying we would be at the back of the queue for years yesterday. I'm no fan of Boris, but he is saying exactly the right things at the right time for the 'NO' campaign...

 

[Bluesaint]

Top quality Stan Laurel impression there

 

[peteblue]

Honestly truly amuses me that you think the UK is the strongest ally in the world.

The Uk is Americas most supportive ally. We are always there when needed, politically, militarily and financially. The US knows this, but this particular president hates the Uk for reasons of his own. Who do you think is a stronger ally......

 

[tommye]

Top quality Stan Laurel impression there

 

[peteblue]

Top quality Obama impression there......