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To be fair, the Niners have the type of defense that could slow down Mahomes/Allen, etc. some.

They could also run the ball down KC's throats, eating up clock. It very nearly worked when the met in the super bowl
It's the two things in combination that makes for a successful approach. If you can run the ball effectively you eat up the clock AND score... Then your opponent gets the ball back under time pressure and behind on the scoreboard. Takes away a lot of their offensive playbook and makes them take bigger risks.

Many a Superbowl has been won by a team with an effective running offense and a stingy D... Too many of them by a certain team from Pennsylvania who play in black and yellow ?
 
Your arguments don't support your conclusions. In fact, your arguments directly contradict your conclusions. For starters, if Mahomes is 14-9 when leading by double digits, that means he's lost seven OTHER games (not just the two against the Bengals) from big winning positions. So clearly there is something to be examined in those seven games, no? Or did all seven of those opponents ALSO just "catch lightning in a bottle"?

And I didn't claim that ONLY Cincinnati has the secret ingredients for frustrating Mahomes. I just disagreed with your superficial suggestion that they "caught lightning in a bottle" in the Championship game, because it's laughable to suggest that and ignore the fact that the Chiefs lost twice in five weeks to the same opponent, in the same manner (giving up early leads), when it can be clearly demonstrated that the opponent in question made defensive adjustments between those two games to target weaknesses in the Kansas offense. Successfully. As evidenced by picking off the QB you claim to be "the best the NFL has ever seen" TWICE and apparently convincing him to just not pass to open receivers.

(EDIT: what ACTUALLY happened was that the Bengals mixed their coverages up a LOT - the interception right at the end, for instance, saw Hill left "open" by his corner, but only because he was being doubled by the two safeties who both lined up pre-snap as if they were in a two-deep zone. Mahomes ignored Kelce one-on-one against a LB in an underneath zone because he thought Hill had beaten the corner on a deep out. End result: Bell and Bates in bracket coverage get the interception, Bengals win.)

In reality, they were both close games and the Cincinnati D slightly edged Mahomes out both times. That's all. It doesn't make Mahomes terrible, nor does it mean Cincinnati has some kind of world-beating D. It just points to small factors in the overall matchup and one coaching staff making better adjustments than the other.
in what form of the English language does when 'faced with a double digit deficit' mean you hold a double digit lead?

And you are talking about overtime, when I was talking about the final drive of regulation where the Chiefs settled for a field goal having been down to the 3 yard line.
 
Help me out son. I've been patiently trying to educate you about football, show me the same courtesy.

If I've misunderstood something you wrote I'll happily look again - what are you referring to?
already edited the above post.

Havent done any research into Mahomes WITH a double digit lead, but it wouldn't shock me if the Bungles games were the only 2 he's lost. But again, I would need to check it.

edit: found 3 games that he lost with double digit leads. Plus the 2 to the Bengals.

Can’t be bothered to look up how many games he’s won with double digit leads but I’m sure it’s 50+
 
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To be fair, the Niners have the type of defense that could slow down Mahomes/Allen, etc. some.

They could also run the ball down KC's throats, eating up clock. It very nearly worked when the met in the super bowl
Their defense got totally wiped out a few weeks ago by the Chiefs.

Not sure if they’ve improved dramatically since then, but they were the top ranked d at the time
 
100% agree with this. It would force teams to commit more defenders in the box on first and second down .
That’s actually a valid point but Reid clearly doesn’t take the backs he has seriously.

He would further argue his current approach is not costing him games which is also a valid point.
 
Picking up McCaffery may well be the single best personnel move in the entire league this season. If you sweep Seattle then you'll have real momentum.


I'm not actually a Niners fan, just calling what I am seeing. If their defence is reasonably healthy and they have all their weapons, it's very hard to see how any team stops them. Bengals are great though, I reckon they'd beat the Chiefs again if Chase is playing
 
Their defense got totally wiped out a few weeks ago by the Chiefs.

Not sure if they’ve improved dramatically since then, but they were the top ranked d at the time


Most of their defence was on the treatment table if I recall. Besides, teams with SB ambitions generally don't show all their cards against opponents they have a good chance of meeting in the big game. The Niners would be a far different proposition in a Superbowl than the one you met a few weeks back
 
Most of their defence was on the treatment table if I recall. Besides, teams with SB ambitions generally don't show all their cards against opponents they have a good chance of meeting in the big game. The Niners would be a far different proposition in a Superbowl than the one you met a few weeks back
Good point

And with McCaffery these are a totally different proposition on offense. Which helps the defense
 
Good point

And with McCaffery these are a totally different proposition on offense. Which helps the defense


The 49ers will be able to chew up huge tracts of time with the running game they have now. Remember, Mitchell is no slouch either and they have Deebo to add even more dimensions to that offence. Mahomes is on a planet of his own, and of all the supposed ways that have been proposed to beat the Chiefs, simply keeping the ball out of his hands strikes me as the most effective. The Niners can do that and then some
 
The 49ers will be able to chew up huge tracts of time with the running game they have now. Remember, Mitchell is no slouch either and they have Deebo to add even more dimensions to that offence. Mahomes is on a planet of his own, and of all the supposed ways that have been proposed to beat the Chiefs, simply keeping the ball out of his hands strikes me as the most effective. The Niners can do that and then some
I’ve said the niners are the best team in the nfc and I expect them to make the Super Bowl.

As for the afc I can see Allen playing it safe to make sure he doesn’t lose games like against Minnesota but that actually may take away from the Bills as much as helps them. I’ll watch them play Detroit tomorrow to see if he plays conservatively.
 
already edited the above post.

Havent done any research into Mahomes WITH a double digit lead, but it wouldn't shock me if the Bungles games were the only 2 he's lost. But again, I would need to check it.

edit: found 3 games that he lost with double digit leads. Plus the 2 to the Bengals.

Can’t be bothered to look up how many games he’s won with double digit leads but I’m sure it’s 50+
Let me take a look again and get back to you.

If you're saying that Mahomes mostly wins after establishing a double digit lead then... well, yes. But I don't see what point you're trying to make there.

Most teams who establish a double digit lead in a game will go on to win it - hence the surprise on the odd occasions where a team LOSING by more than ten at the half comes back to win.

If your point is that Mahomes is 14-9 in games where the Chiefs have been BEHIND by double digits then ok, that's impressive... but not relevant to either of the Bengals games we were discussing because in both of those games the Chiefs had solid leads in the first half iirc.
 
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