Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[orly]

Just asked in Bookies for odds on Vitor. The guy said "are you a nutter? do you want to waste your money"

Reading around that I think it is on..Welcome Vitor.

That's a bookie who is doing his trade completely wrong

 

[Chipshill]

Because until it is done it is not done, so until you have a signature you have to look for alternatives. It also applies pressure on Emery which is no bad thing, and ultimately Koeman was initially Moshiri's first choice but as I've said many times left the door open for Emery to become the preferred candidate.

Our negotiating position is stronger with two candidates.The position is Emery's to take or leave but he knows that Koeman is once more a contender if for whatever reason he procrastinates.

I'm still of the opinion Emery will take it.

So it looks like Koeman tried to use us to get a wage out of Soton, overplayed his hand expecting to always be our first choice if he changed his mind, and now he's the backup... Lovely

Come on Emery!

 

[Pees86]

To talk to these managers, don't we need to approach the clubs first? and get there permission, it might be different in Spain but surly that would have been reported and Savilla may or may not have given us permission to speak to Emery.

P.s Thanks Esk you kept me sane the last few weeks

Would have thoughy Emery is just a case of paying release clause so agree deal then make it official with sevilla with the cash nothing they can donreally

 

[John Osters Love Child]

is there any chance the noise about Koeman is coming from his camp to improve his offer from Southampton?

 

[KevMirallas]

Would be nice for this to end soon.

 

[Khalekan]

I notice a few hacks in the Liverpool Echo are going on about this director of football/head coach rubbish.I personally think myself that a manager needs to have the final say over everything.Having someone else over you to buy the players will just lead to complications and personality clashes.The manager lives and dies by his results.He needs to have total control over all aspects of the operation.I just think this concept of the head coach is a load of nonsense and will result in a football club lacking stability.

Whilst agreeing with that sentiment in general, these two Sevilla guys seem to come as a team and work well together so I don't think there will be a personality clash.

 

[DannyAmo95]

Really hope Emery wasn't a ploy to lure Koeman.

I'm just thinking that myself

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I notice a few hacks in the Liverpool Echo are going on about this director of football/head coach rubbish.I personally think myself that a manager needs to have the final say over everything.Having someone else over you to buy the players will just lead to complications and personality clashes.The manager lives and dies by his results.He needs to have total control over all aspects of the footballing side of the operation.I just think this concept of the head coach is a load of nonsense and will result in a football club lacking stability.

Tell that to Emery, who's won 3 consecutive Europa Leagues with a director of football. Or Pep Guardiola, who spent his time at Barca working with one... Or countless other continental managers for whom that's the norm. Or even Ronald Koeman, who works in that structure at Southampton.

It's the way football is going, and it allows a club to establish continuity across various managers.

 

[catcherintherye]

Exactly my feeling mate. Been in the Koeman camp from the word go, but last week changed to Emery. He'll stay my preferred choice now. Koeman overplayed his hand a little bit imo. The joke's on you for that Ronald.

I think Emery & Monchi as a combination is a very difficult one to look past. Two competent people who have a strong relationship and can work together is a major plus.

Koeman I kind of went through 3 phases. Firstly being underwhelmed, he is not an exotic name and recently hasn't won a great deal. However when you started looking more closely at him, the transfers he's made and actually the form in the second half of the season (I know it's a kopite was of looking at things) but 2nd half performance had them 2nd. I started to really get on board and be quite excited. The final part has been a bit frustrated with him. I think he would do well for us but I am not sure how far we can trust him.

My preference has always been De Boer with Joachim Loew (or more likely Overmaars) as DOF. I think he is somewhere between Koeman & Emery in what they offer. Emery is potentially the biggest reward but quite a big risk whereas Koeman is quite steady and unglamorous. De Boer is a bit of both but he looks out of it.

I'd be delighted with Emery though his record over the last 3 years has been very good.

 

[McBain]

Oh yes Emery guffaw guffaw Koeman twaddle hoo err Der Boring Lar Lar lar Pellagrini oh purlease Moyes oh good god

the sleek and professional way we are running the search.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Oh yes Emery guffaw guffaw Koeman twaddle hoo err Der Boring Lar Lar lar Pellagrini oh purlease Moyes oh good god

Think the catastrophic mistake you've made there is assuming that every newspaper article stating who our preferred choice is, is bang on the money.

 

[McBain]

Just asked in Bookies for odds on Vitor. The guy said "are you a nutter? do you want to waste your money"

Reading around that I think it is on..Welcome Vitor.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

is there any chance the noise about Koeman is coming from his camp to improve his offer from Southampton?

Given that no noise has come out of Everton regarding Emery it is highly unlikely that any noise has come from us regarding Koeman. Just as it was a few days back when it was said that Everton had stepped up their interest in Pellegrini, that had a planted story written all over it.

 

[Taff]

Oh yes Emery guffaw guffaw Koeman twaddle hoo err Der Boring Lar Lar lar Pellagrini oh purlease Moyes oh good god

WTF?

 

[McBain]

Think the catastrophic mistake you've made there is assuming that every newspaper article stating who our preferred choice is, is bang on the money.

My mistake is not copywriting Facebook when I thought of it in 1989 mate.