New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium


dannyboy said:
Absolute travesty how small the lower tier of the South Stand is. Been said before that so many people who never sat in the Street End will have put themselves in there as well without really wanting to contribute to the atmosphere themselves.
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I think the safe standing barriers look terrible and are a hinderance to atmosphere.

Obviously the accessibility bays are an extremely sensitive issue and they should not be changed now they're there, but something more creative could have been done on that when laying the stand seating out because that Blue Wall peters out a bit because of them.
 

You can't treat fans like coustmers, continually rip them off with a substandard product and then wonder why they don't sing enough lol. The majority of old school fans who would've sung all game and every game have either been priced out or walked away. Those that are left are a tiny minority now and get blank stares or angry glares half the time when they try. Modern football isn't a working class sport anymore and it shows in the atmosphere.
 
davek said:
I think the safe standing barriers look terrible and are a hinderance to atmosphere.

Obviously the accessibility bays are an extremely sensitive issue and they should not be changed now they're there, but something more creative could have been done on that when laying the stand seating out because that Blue Wall peters out a bit because of them.
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There was a lot of carry on about all the things they'd done to make this a unique stand in football but I don't think it's ever going to get anywhere near what the Gwladys Street was for us.

People will say it's early days but did City find their new Kippax when they moved? Same with West Ham and Arsenal.
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
You can't treat fans like coustmers, continually rip them off with a substandard product and then wonder why they don't sing enough lol. The majority of old school fans who would've sung all game and every game have either been priced out or walked away. Those that are left are a tiny minority now and get blank stares or angry glares half the time when they try. Modern football isn't a working class sport anymore and it shows in the atmosphere.
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dannyboy said:
Absolute travesty how small the lower tier of the South Stand is. Been said before that so many people who never sat in the Street End will have put themselves in there as well without really wanting to contribute to the atmosphere.
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Lower South are pathetic- not sure why they opted to go in the standing section - too many watchers not enough SUPPORTERS.
 
davek said:
Tonight? How d'you manage that? No way past the gates I wouldn't imagine to get to the ticket office?
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Went through entrance B tonight and the female steward was actively shouting that people didn't need to show tickets at this point, just go through the scanner. So perhaps they are ditching that after the initial few sell outs?
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
You can't treat fans like coustmers, continually rip them off with a substandard product and then wonder why they don't sing enough lol. The majority of old school fans who would've sung all game and every game have either been priced out or walked away. Those that are left are a tiny minority now and get blank stares or angry glares half the time when they try. Modern football isn't a working class sport anymore and it shows in the atmosphere.
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You say that but other teams do still generate decent atmospheres. I do think over the last 10 years we've had a lot of new fans start going the game though, as you can see from the constant sell outs, and they've never really known anything else but to spend the majority of the match sitting in silence.
 
dannyboy said:
There was a lot of carry on about all the things they'd done to make this a unique stand in football but I don't think it's ever going to get anywhere near what the Gwladys Street was for us.

People will say it's early days but did City find their new Kippax when they moved? Same with West Ham and Arsenal.
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The energy of a stand goes from back to front and onto the pitch and this stand is not designed for that to be feasible, IMO.

That's not a backward swipe at the people in the access bay. They'll do all they can to get that energy continued down onto the pitch. But the bay they have prevents that happening.

As I say: the issue is one I wouldn't feel comfortable in changing. Our disabled supporters are fanatics and deserve the same rights as anyone else. I just feel when at the designing stage something wasn't thought through.
 

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