New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I think it's Nelson Dock that's part of the deal.

 

[Bazlar]

I thought Bradford was actually a seated area?Burnden park,Ibrox both occurred in standing areas?

I can remember the Ibrox disaster coming on over the news. Truely awful disaster. I can't remember the name of the player who scored the goal that caused the crush but the poor man suffered throughout his life with guilt

 

[Dario Terracotta]

I can remember the Ibrox disaster coming on over the news. Truely awful disaster. I can't remember the name of the player who scored the goal that caused the crush but the poor man suffered throughout his life with guilt

Colin Stein I think.

 

[IllinoisBlue]

Is this the Liverpool whose fans stand en masse regularly at away games and GREATEUROPEEEEEEEANNIGHTSATANFIEEEEEEEEEELD?

I see what you did...

 

[Bazlar]

Colin Stein I think.

Thanks mate. Feel sorry for the man. How he must wish he mis kicked that

 

[maccarob]

Bradford: cigarette dropped under wooden stand causes inferno.

Hillsborough: crush due to excess of people unable to escape confined space.

Both took place on terraces. In neither case was the terracing a factor.

You're conflating facts to fit your argument.

Terrace standing in the old days was a difficult ride, just because there was not major disasters on an horrific scale, there was however on a weekly basis very bad experiences and near misses. It is not right to suggest terracing as it was, caused no major problems. Safe standing is a different discussion.

 

[joey_macmo]

Maybe,I just know a number of disasters at football grounds in Britain all occurred when standing areas were in place,nothing thankfully has ever happened since all seater stadia started.

I'm sorry but again that's just incorrect. There have been more deaths at all seater stadia than in standing areas around the world.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

I thought Bradford was actually a seated area?Burnden park,Ibrox both occurred in standing areas?

Wasn't Ibrox when fans left the stadium and a crush developed as fans went down steps away from the ground?

 

[joey_macmo]

Bradford: cigarette dropped under wooden stand causes inferno.

Hillsborough: crush due to excess of people unable to escape confined space.

Both took place on terraces. In neither case was the terracing a factor.

You're conflating facts to fit your argument.

Valley parade fire was in a seating area

 

[peteblue]

...good news apparently;

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/...ars-way-everton-bramley-moore-dock-proposals/

Old news unfortunately......

 

[peteblue]

All this talk of safe standing takes me back to the old days in GSE. Back then in crowds of 60,000 plus, the surges and barriers, oh what fun and to think the thousands of fans these days who never experienced that or crowds of that size in GP. Sad really is it not in a way.

Happy days, but tbh, you could miss half the match or even a goal with the surges and movement. It was atmospheric though, if only because of the size of the crowd, but all seaters are much better.......

 

[Bazlar]

Wasn't Ibrox when fans left the stadium and a crush developed as fans went down steps away from the ground?

In a way mate. Rangers were getting beat and loads were on their way out. Rangers scored in the dying seconds and they all rushed up back again causing the crush

 

[ToffeeDoug]

In a way mate. Rangers were getting beat and loads were on their way out. Rangers scored in the dying seconds and they all rushed up back again causing the crush

An appalling tragedy but nothing to do with standing on the terraces as such.

 

[peteblue]

An appalling tragedy but nothing to do with standing on the terraces as such.

It was all about the exit, one fan fell, the rest piled up......the exit from the old Kop was similar, absolute death trap.....

 

[captainvindaloo]

You cannot "generate" an atmosphere if the crowd are standing, sitting, or playing Twister.

As ever, it all points back to the demographics of the UK. In the 50s, were football crowds singing and chanting? Doubt it. Then the 70s and 80s pitched up, and the football crowds started the "atmosphere" us oldies remember. Now, we are all grown up and wrinkled, and the new generation of supporters are behaving at the game in a way they feel right.

Why I have not a clue, but the demographics of the footballing crowd have changed in the same way that society has.

The new demographics are all too busy gorping at their phones to pay any attention to contributing to the "atmosphere".