New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[allen]

Agree mate but when it's 730 kick off and your trying to get home from work it's very unlikely most can get there early so causing last minute rush

Yeah, and there have been a ridiculous number of evening games at home this season.

Saturdays or Sundays are one thing - but I have a 2 and a half hour drive to Liverpool and arriving in advance means time off work.

Easier to get there early if you’re local and, ideally, retired.

 

[mccole]

The council has also recently marked the kerb edges of double yellow lines, meaning blue badge holders cannot park on double yellow lines anywhere in the stadium area.

The stadium is very unpleasant to say the least for disabled supporters who don’t have onsite stadium parking.

It’s an actual disgrace.

Yet they turn a blind eye to all the other lot parking everywhere around Tuebrook, Newsham Park and Sheil Road every game BUT heaven forbid a Council Tax payer wants to park close to their football stadium

Hypocrites

 

[Tom Hughes]

Yet they turn a blind eye to all the other lot parking everywhere around Tuebrook, Newsham Park and Sheil Road every game BUT heaven forbid a Council Tax payer wants to park close to their football stadium

Hypocrites

Different site, with far more access roads from all sides. They have equally strict parking restrictions in the immediate vicinity of Anfield. Shiel Rd and Newsham Park are a good distance from the their stadium though, so seeing as there is parking/access on all sides, it's not surprising that it's more lenient in those locations.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Agree mate but when it's 730 kick off and your trying to get home from work it's very unlikely most can get there early so causing last minute rush

Yes, I understand that, but there is little or no solution to that other than strict parking restrictions in the immediate vicinity and for an efficient shuttle-service to get more people to and from public transport hubs in the city centre and park and ride facilities. Otherwise, many with mobility issues will not be able to easily attend.

 

[davek]

All goes back to the Transport Plan which was nodded through and never should have been nodded through.

The demographic hollowing out of this fanbase many of us talked about in relation to this stadium is now a reality and the elderly and infirm if they abandon their ST now will pretty much be forever lost to the club.

That's hardball economics right there.

 

[davids]

Bramley Moor is jinxed.

 

[mccole]

Different site, with far more access roads from all sides. They have equally strict parking restrictions in the immediate vicinity of Anfield. Shiel Rd and Newsham Park are a good distance from the their stadium though, so seeing as there is parking/access on all sides, it's not surprising that it's more lenient in those locations.

Our fans are MORE restricted covering a wider range of the city because of lack of local transport links

We have to more FURTHER away and STILL can get ticketed.

Whereas, they can park closer on residents roads WITHOUT any threat of tickets PLUS they have more direct public transport links.

This council is a joke and blown money on projects with maximum inconvenience with little to no improvement

A Billion pound project and they don't care unless they can fleece the crap out of us.

 

[Tom Hughes]

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Our fans are MORE restricted covering a wider range of the city because of lack of local transport links

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We have to more FURTHER away and STILL can get ticketed.

Whereas, they can park closer on residents roads WITHOUT any threat of tickets PLUS they have more direct public transport links.

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This council is a joke and blown money on projects with maximum inconvenience with little to no improvement

A Billion pound project and they don't care unless they can fleece the crap out of us.

That's what happens when you build in a cul de sac next to a river. You have less than half the area and a fraction of the number of available roads for access and dispersal. The council didn't choose the site and complied fully with the club's transport strategy and funding requirements, which clearly stated the required modal shift ascertained during the consultation process. The walking distance is not much different if you take the direct routes. The Northern Line is easily the biggest capacity transport hub and Sandhills is much nearer to our stadium and the shuttles are direct, closer and more numerous than at Anfield.

 

[MikeyMike]

I'd like the club to publish the real attendance figures, rather than "seats paid for" which is an important metric for the club accountants but meaningless to anyone else, like the fans. It's easily done, they can base it on the number of scans at the gates. Then I'd like them to acknowledge the shortfall is partly due to not having physical tickets that can be passed around, and rectify that.

 

[davek]

I'd like the club to publish the real attendance figures, rather than "seats paid for" which is an important metric for the club accountants but meaningless to anyone else, like the fans. It's easily done, they can base it on the number of scans at the gates. Then I'd like them to acknowledge the shortfall is partly due to not having physical tickets that can be passed around, and rectify that.

Yep.

No one is buying the official figures on actual attendance.

They wont release those figures, of course, not the least reason for that is that it'll undermine their argument that what they do overall on ticketing is to ensure against touting.

 

[mccole]

That's what happens when you build in a cul de sac next to a river. You have less than half the area and a fraction of the number of available roads for access and dispersal. The council didn't choose the site and complied fully with the club's transport strategy and funding requirements, which clearly stated the required modal shift ascertained during the consultation process. The walking distance is not much different if you take the direct routes. The Northern Line is easily the biggest capacity transport hub and Sandhills is much nearer to our stadium and the shuttles are direct, closer and more numerous than at Anfield.

You would think a council would think how can you boost local and international revenue.

We can all moan about where the stadium is but look at the airport - zero train/trams and few buses which close at midnight.

No future planning or improvement planned.

We built a Billion pound stadium which has generated millions for them in an area they COMPLETELY left for ruin and they couldn't even put a roof over the heads of people using public transport just cattle rails boxing them in.

It's humiliating

 

[BarryTheBlue]

We sell out as much as City do

 

[BarryTheBlue]

This is not a good look

Barry Harrison, 85, who had a season ticket at Goodison from 1966 up until the final game against Southampton last May, said parking options around the stadium had become "unworkable".

"When I used to go to Goodison, I had my blue badge so it wasn't an issue," he said.

"The first time I went here, I got the train and it damn near killed me, the walk from Sandhills. I'm 85. It's a half-mile walk from the station."

Barry, who said he had barely missed a game since 1996, now gets the bus but the long journey means he was "thinking of chucking my ticket in".

I watched an old couple walk up the stairs to the back and they looked close to death

 

[Connor]

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Our fans are MORE restricted covering a wider range of the city because of lack of local transport links

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We have to more FURTHER away and STILL can get ticketed.

Whereas, they can park closer on residents roads WITHOUT any threat of tickets PLUS they have more direct public transport links.

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This council is a joke and blown money on projects with maximum inconvenience with little to no improvement

A Billion pound project and they don't care unless they can fleece the crap out of us.

ESK STREET

 

[Tom Hughes]

You would think a council would think how can you boost local and international revenue.

We can all moan about where the stadium is but look at the airport - zero train/trams and few buses which close at midnight.

No future planning or improvement planned.

We built a Billion pound stadium which has generated millions for them in an area they COMPLETELY left for ruin and they couldn't even put a roof over the heads of people using public transport just cattle rails boxing them in.

It's humiliating

Peel own the docks, not the council. The council can only build what they get funding for, and that is generally dependent on cost:benefit analysis, which stadiums are notoriously poor for..... and why most football clubs have to fund any new infrastructure themselves. Fact is, the club's transport strategy was fully implemented. If we had won the CWGames bid, the project would have received the £750m+ that Brum got. That would've given a new station at Vauxhall and more enabling funding for further infrastructure, but nothing would have changed the basic logistics and geography. Kopites have been asking why the loop line hasn't been opened up for them since before their first expansion took place, but that will only happen if/when that proposal meets CBR criteria..... and let's face it, they generally bring far more money into the city than us, but would we be happy if the council funded all of their new infrastructure?