New Everton Manager

[TheBigIguana]

Wasn't that fussed. He loved playing rugby, he loved what he was studying and where he was studying it. Our family values doing these things over acquiring cash.

Obviously we bitterly wish we could get the cash for doing the things we love though!

Yeah I was joking, NFL kickers can get contracts in the $10 million range so maybe worth pursuing if you've got that talent.

 

[evertony]

It's probably geolocked. It's a real article though. I can search again for something else if you like, or you can just accept what I'm telling you.

Oh look:

How Brentford flipped the script to become England's smartest club

How do you generate more than £120million on transfers over five years, but still maintain one of the most talented squads in the Championship? “If David wants to beat Goliath, you can’t do that by…

talksport.com

You’re rather easily hoodwinked aren’t you Big Oil. On the plus side, there’s never a reason for you to come to watch Everton....you can simply throw a load of digits into a spreadsheet and pretend that the xG and xP have got us into the Top 4. Think of the angst and fume you’ll save yourself.

 

[evertony]

How Brentford flipped the script to become England's smartest club

How do you generate more than £120million on transfers over five years, but still maintain one of the most talented squads in the Championship? “If David wants to beat Goliath, you can’t do that by…

talksport.com

Yeah mate, uninformed.

 

[catcherintherye]

I absolutely 100% do not think Duncan should get the job.

However you’re right that it’s daft to say he didn’t do well over those 3 games.

The points he averaged in those league games would have us on 63 if extrapolated over a full season, and they were gained while playing against 3 top 6 sides, off the back of a run that had us in the relegation zone.

Do I think he’d get us 63pts? No I don’t, but it’s pointless to act like he didn’t do a good job.

I think as fans we tend to go overboard with criticisms of people we dont like, Duncan included.

As you say, some of it is just counter factual.

You cant generalise off a 4 game run, but you're right to say he managed those 4 games well.

 

[TheBigIguana]

You’re rather easily hoodwinked aren’t you Big Oil. On the plus side, there’s never a reason for you to come to watch Everton....you can simply throw a load of digits into a spreadsheet and pretend that the xG and xP have got us into the Top 4. Think of the angst and fume you’ll save yourself.

Nah it's more like you have a tough time accepting new information that challenges your views. So keep believing no one is using numbers to be better at this sport.

 

[MrGrumpy]

1 year at “failing” Derby... who he took to the playoff final, and followed it up, by staying up on a technicality.

Can you explain to me how Duncan Ferguson is the most experienced coach in the league?

Everything you’re saying is pie in the sky stuff.

Lampard had more experience than Ferguson.

Ferguson is not the most experienced coach in the league.... he’s absolutely miles off.

He can work with Brands and bring through youth, apparently? Can you tell me who in the Youth Team is stepping up? Our closest prospects aren’t good enough.

He worked with this group of players as a coach for 6 seasons now and guess what? They’ve not turned up for 6 years, so what exactly is he doing? If his presence is so great, those players wouldn’t be so lethargic (and yes, I’m aware it’s not his direct job... but ( managers have came in, and he’s been there doing the same as always)

not even the most experienced coach at Everton

 

[TheBigIguana]

I think as fans we tend to go overboard with criticisms of people we dont like, Duncan included.

As you say, some of it is just counter factual.

You cant generalise off a 4 game run, but you're right to say he managed those 4 games well.

I think it was the exact number of games he could get away with before it turned for the worse.

 

[Zezti]

Proposal to blanket ban the term ' xG ' just like what used to happen with "thegEv"

 

[evertony]

Big Oil has just saved us millions if not billions. Uncle Uzy and Moshiri can save their shekels. We just need a PC Nerd with database skills to input a bucket load of data and it’ll churn out a title-winning team. No Ancelotti replacement required and probably no transfer window either.
I take it all back....stats and data is the future.

 

[nsno-chris]

Brentford lads, they’re the future. Nobody, ever, in football has tried to buy cheap and sell high

 

[blue to the bone]

A person who has never bothered getting off his supersized Us ass to go and watch Everton in the flesh spends hours a day lecturing people on every topic related to the club.
What a narcissistic moron .

 

[evertony]

Nah it's more like you have a tough time accepting new information that challenges your views. So keep believing no one is using numbers to be better at this sport.

Being better at this sport wasn’t the point. You clearly said that it won them promotion. Let’s not be pedantic.

 

[catcherintherye]

He was a completely terrible manager here and he wasn't good for Napoli either. The game is past him and I for one congratulate Simeone on back to back La Liga victories in advance of next season.

I'm sorry mate, but this is a wild exaggeration. He finished 2nd with Napoli and he inherited a team in 18th here, showed form that was 8th in the league for the remainder of that season, and the following season improved the points total to 59 points, the highest in 4 years.

Was the style of play by which he did this attractive? Probably not. Can you argue we were fortunate in games, and as a whole? Again yes you can make that argument. Was it achieved with a short termism that was unsustainable? Again potentially so.
Have we some grounds for feeling angry with how he left? Yes I would say there is some legitimacy.

However was his performance "completely terrible"? I can only view this as counter factual I'm afraid.

I also think, we are only going to make the next managers job harder if we assume 59 point is some awful failure for us. It creates an unrealistic set of expectations and the cycle continues.

 

[evertony]

Nah it's more like you have a tough time accepting new information that challenges your views. So keep believing no one is using numbers to be better at this sport.

Being better at this sport wasn’t the point. You clearly said that it won them promotion. Let’s not be pedantic

 

[catcherintherye]

I think it was the exact number of games he could get away with before it turned for the worse.

Ok. That's an opinion and you're welcome to it. Why would 4 games be the optimum though?

And what did he "get away with" in your mind?

Do you think sometimes, you allow for confirmation bias mate? You have really good insights on things, but sometimes you seem to find/invent evidence to find substantiate your opinion.