New Everton Manager

[Papa Shango]

This is what we are ALL like, not personal to you, but why do any of us think someone would leave the likes of Monaco on the med, being successful to come to the dour mid-table club on the north west of the uk? I think we all need a bit of a wake up call and be a bit more realistic on who we’ll get.

He would probably jump at the chance to be fair. Loads more money and in a much stronger league.

He can go to the Med any time really.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Nailed it.

Tbh mate providing we get in players for his system I dont think he would do that bad here. Someone like Dumfries at RWB and then whatever system he picks bring in upgrades accordingly.

I would much rather him than suspects like Howe and Potter.

 

[riddick]

That's where we are though. It's an unfortunate reality.

Not only are we not the most attractive we are a very, very difficult nut to crack. A lot of managers know this and won't risk their reputation and why should they?

We're not really that difficult. We appointed a nobody in Moyes who ran the club for a decade extremely efficiently. Then we appointed a relegated manager who worked on the back of the previous manager and got us good attacking football and solid defending before he decided that defending was a waste of time. Sacked him, hired a mercenary who was crap and sold everything good to accomodate which backfired massively. Fired him, hired Fat Sam and backed him. Fired him, hired a nobody in Silva and backed him.

We've had 5 managers who all have brought in VASTLY different players which we can't unload. It's really not difficult, get in a manager who is flexible and get in some talent that suits a sustainable system, regardless of who the manager is. The issue isn''t the managers being changed so often, the issue is we have literally no idea how we want to play and then bring in players who the next manager can't figure out how to use. It's where Brands is failing. Should he hire Nuno, we're going to play either 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 of which we have like 2 players for. You know who else plays 3-5-2 and is a winning manager? Pretty much nobody else. Which means the NEXT manager is going to have a bunch of players they have no idea how to use.

 

[blueblue]

This is the club wanting to make sure they dont get caught on the hop in the final furlong like Palace were by Mendes.

I'd guess it'll be Nuno, but I wouldn't bank on it.

70% likely IMO.

Sounds about right.

I think it will be Nuno as well and the final pieces of the jigsaw are probably being agreed. When things go quiet instead of meaning there is intense activity it usually means the focus has changed to setting up a deal with the new man.

The only caveat would be somebody like Galtier not completely walking away as it really would be a big opportunity for him. Galtier is the one I would like to see, a winner who already has a good body of managerial work behind him, able to build a team without unlimited resources , old enough but not too old and I think worked in England for a short while. I accept he won't come but as prospective managers go he ticked a lot of boxes.

I feel if it was Benitez it would have been done days ago , it it was Potter there would be talk of him leaving Brighton by now and a lot of the other names were just stocking fillers in my opinion.

 

[Papa Shango]

Tbh mate providing we get in players for his system I dont think he would do that bad here. Someone like Dumfries at RWB and then whatever system he picks bring in upgrades accordingly.

I would much rather him than suspects like Howe and Potter.

Perception is an interesting thing.

Why would you much prefer Nuno to Howe or Potter realistically? Nuno has managed better clubs and got better positions but Howe and Potter have taken their clubs up 4 divisions and into respectable top flight teams. Which is the most impressive achievement? Rhetorical question as it's all relative really. What I would say is that all 3 have done impressive jobs at various levels. It does make me laugh how much managers get dismissed.

 

[riddick]

The instability has to play a large part. Changing managers every 18 months and a mish mash of players.

Like i said just before, it's not the manager, it's the players and complete lack of direction from our supposed DOF. That's their job, they are meant to be the constant in an era of frequent managerial changes. You don't hire Martinez, sack him, then rip it up completely for Koeman, to then sack him, bring in Fat Sam and some players for him, then sack him, change it again for the useless Silva and his whatever it was, sack him and appoint Carlo and whatever idea he had and now go for someone who we have like NO players for. It makes absolutely no sense to not try to sustain a way you want to play.

 

[allen]

This is what we are ALL like, not personal to you, but why do any of us think someone would leave the likes of Monaco on the med, being successful to come to the dour mid-table club on the north west of the uk? I think we all need a bit of a wake up call and be a bit more realistic on who we’ll get.

I don't think Evertonians have a proper grasp on how enticing our club is. We all think we're a car crash of a club, which we are - but so is pretty much every other football club. It's an insane industry, full of insane people making insane decisions with insane money.

We're still one of the top 20 clubs in the world to play for, in the best league in the world. We don't have the weather, but England has pretty much everything else for a young lad with money to burn.

We are a very attractive prospect.

 

[EFCccc]

Sounds about right.

I think it will be Nuno as well and the final pieces of the jigsaw are probably being agreed. When things go quiet instead of meaning there is intense activity it usually means the focus has changed to setting up a deal with the new man.

The only caveat would be somebody like Galtier not completely walking away as it really would be a big opportunity for him. Galtier is the one I would like to see, a winner who already has a good body of managerial work behind him, able to build a team without unlimited resources , old enough but not too old and I think worked in England for a short while. I accept he won't come but as prospective managers go he ticked a lot of boxes.

I feel if it was Benitez it would have been done days ago , it it was Potter there would be talk of him leaving Brighton by now and a lot of the other names were just stocking fillers in my opinion.

Big Galtier fan are you?. Always followed him and his work.

 

[blue61]

This is what we are ALL like, not personal to you, but why do any of us think someone would leave the likes of Monaco on the med, being successful to come to the dour mid-table club on the north west of the uk? I think we all need a bit of a wake up call and be a bit more realistic on who we’ll get.

I think you're seriously under estimating the lure of the 12" hotdog mate.

 

[brieverton]

I'd prefer Galtier too but it's very feasible that he may prefer to remain in France, or that he just isn't interested in us. If we ever were / are in him.

There are a lot of moving parts that have to align to get any manager in.

 

[danny147]

How did all of them jobs finish? Obv Inter are likely to have a fire sale this summer, you cant really blame him there straight after they won the league. The owners actually owned a Chinese side didnt they and shut them down.

Completely different scenario with us though. He might have had success in a couple of years at some clubs but they was already in a position to succeed with the players they had. Big difference coming into a club of sigurdsson, iwobis etc than a team of winners. Going by previous clubs by the time he’d have built a squad to compete he’d already be gone. World class manager but the opposite of what we should go for when the club needs stability.

 

[BNJ1878]

€40mil ? Reports say €5mil.

Kinda sums it up.

You read 5, I read 40.

Who knows? The Lille president.

I honestly prefer the days pre-internet. I certainly wasn't wasting countless hours on a football forum with little (nothing?) the show for it.

 

[blue to the bone]

Kinda sums it up.

You read 5, I read 40.

Who knows? The Lille president.

I honestly prefer the days pre-internet. I certainly wasn't wasting countless hours on a football forum with little (nothing?) the show for it.

You do know you can log off ?

 

[CielosGrises]

I've no evidence to support this - but you do have to wonder whether we need to significantly tighten the purse-strings following/during Covid & with stadium work needing to be paid for & we failed to get to Europe. Could be part of the reason Ancelotti left (sure...and it's Real Madrid) and why we may not be able to entice a top manager who would demand top players.

Ie. the first interview question might be 'can you work with these players, youngsters and a limited budget ?'

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Kinda sums it up.

You read 5, I read 40.

Who knows? The Lille president.

I honestly prefer the days pre-internet. I certainly wasn't wasting countless hours on a football forum with little (nothing?) the show for it.

There’s no way anybody pays 40 lol
He will sit out for a year, a break is maybe what he wants. And will go for free next summer.