New Everton Manager

[Rooney_Tunes]

Just me that reckons Moshiri/Brands are giggling at this Nuno stuff?

I mean, put aside the is he/isnt he any good, its reasonably well documented that he absolutely hated footie in empty grounds, and hadnt seen his wife for over a year; for all we know, next season could be the same. Who knows?

What these last 18 months have proved to pretty much everyone is that family, health, and comfort are the most important things in life. Not managing a football club and not seeing your wife.

Are you making a point here?

People are giggling because they haven't seen their wife?

 

[AmericasToffee]

Life is a series of challenges Matty mate.

You simply overcome them.

Warm bed, food in your tummy and a healthy and happy family, thats all thats important, everything else is just extra.

Agreed. It's particularly why I won't ever consider supporting another EPL club besides Everton. The things they do outside of football are top notch.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Life is a series of challenges Matty mate.

You simply overcome them.

Warm bed, food in your tummy and a healthy and happy family, thats all thats important, everything else is just extra.

I am not Matty but I agree with everything in that statement.

We will appoint Nuno, or we won't.

He will relegate us or he won't.

We will buy Nunes, or we won't.

And life will continue until it doesn't...

Have a good evening.

 

[AndyC]

All true but if Denise said exactly that, the fans would have stamped on it, why doesn't the club show ambition...
Can't win really can she

She did say it and no, she can't win because she keeps talking tripe.

 

[roydo]

Are you making a point here?

People are giggling because they haven't seen their wife?

Not at all. Just that the reasons, apparently, that he left Wolves was down to non football stuff. Covid basically, and so far, that hasnt gone away.

So Mosh/Brands are giggling at the assumption he is our new manager. As in, he isnt.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Not at all. Just that the reasons, apparently, that he left Wolves was down to non football stuff. Covid basically, and so far, that hasnt gone away.

So Mosh/Brands are giggling at the assumption he is our new manager. As in, he isnt.

Ahh, ok.

I really hope we don't appoint him.

Fills me with absolute gashness (not even sure it's a word but sounds right).

 

[Death]

This is wrong mate.

He was in contract, and the mutual agreement was a saving face courtesy.

He was shown the door.

Former Benfica manager in frame as Wolves sack Nuno

Nuno Espírito Santo was sacked as the head coach of Wolverhampton Wanderers, having been told five days ago that his time at the club was over.The 47-year-old’

www.thetimes.co.uk

No mate it was mutual. Both him and the owner said they wanted to part ways at the exact same time. Nuno even said 'jinx, tax for life' and gave him a dead arm.

It was 1 in a million.

 

[Lob]

We didn't have a manager until 1939 ((Theo Kelly.) Before then it was the club secretary who was responsible for the team.

He was the first man in charge of an Everton team regardless but yeah if we want to be pedantic with titles for doing the same job then fair enough mate. lol

 

[summerisle]

He was the first man in charge of an Everton team regardless but yeah if we want to be pedantic with titles for doing the same job then fair enough mate. lol

Pedantic, moi !

 

[Jamo Martinez]

I will add some balance to that.
Nuno isn’t overly fond of young players. They have to prove they’re up to the concentration and workload demands for a long time in training before being willing to give them a chance.
Only reason we had so many youth minutes were Neto’s outstanding form, Jonny’s injuries meaning Rayan Ait-Nouri was 1st choice LB at 19, and Fabio Silva thrown in after Raul’s injury.

They really weren’t in there purely by choice, mostly necessity.
When our defence was shocking, he barely played Kilman when he wouldn’t have been any worse.
Owen Otasowie has all the physical attributes our MF was woefully lacking, but he gave the ball away stupidly against Citeh to gift them a goal, he never appeared again.

So yeah, he’ll play youngsters if forced to, or they’re truly exceptional, but don’t bank on it.
They do generally seem to come on well via his staff’s tutelage though.

I get the impression that's probably true of the vast majority of managers.

I haven't looked at any stats on the subject or even thought about it too much tbh. So I'm sure people will post examples of several managers who do play youngsters in other circumstances

 

[EFCccc]

How about we all just back him. See what players he brings inn, see how we play, and see we’re we end up at the end of the season and then start with the negativity. You all sound like absolute idiots slating a manager that hasn’t even been appointed yet.

 

[Visiting Wolf]

I get the impression that's probably true of the vast majority of managers.

I haven't looked at any stats on the subject or even thought about it too much tbh. So I'm sure people will post examples of several managers who do play youngsters in other circumstances

Yeah I’d say that’s the norm too, I was saying it in response to the stat we’ve given youngsters most minutes. It was extenuating circumstances rather than personal preference.
Whereas his replacement, this Lage geezer actively dropped some senior players at Benfica and brought in the youth, changing formation to build around Joao Felix, despite him only having started a few games at that point.

 

[jazzy]

Life is a series of challenges Matty mate.

You simply overcome them.

Warm bed, food in your tummy and a healthy and happy family, thats all thats important, everything else is just extra.

Never a truer word said MG - well done.

 

[PSB1]

How about we all just back him. See what players he brings inn, see how we play, and see we’re we end up at the end of the season and then start with the negativity. You all sound like absolute idiots slating a manager that hasn’t even been appointed yet.

Absolute idiots for criticising a manager who hasn't been appointed yet.

Backing him before he's appointed or done anything = erm ...

 

[catcherintherye]

Ok. So I take it you accepted the 8th, 10th and 12th before that, two of them provided by an alleged world class manager?
That’s the problem with fans, the eternal tightrope between optimism and expectation.
We had about 15-20% of our lot wanting him gone last season for how dull it was, another large group saying give him til Christmas next season when got Jiménez back, and the rest along the lines of ‘what are you talking about, this is still the best for nearly half a century’.

Then there were the few old farts that remember winning titles in the 50s that didn’t think 7th was anything to be happy about, it’s a disgrace that we haven’t won a cup yet.

You’ve got to actually put your expectation level into context. Should you be doing better than you are? Yes. Should Everton be finishing that low with their spend in the Moshiri era? No.
Would getting back to being the ‘best of the rest‘ actually be an achievement considering recent finishes: yes.
If a manager leaves a club better than they found it, especially relative to budget, then they’ve succeeded. By that metric, Nuno was a success. Every manager at Everton since Moshiri’s millions has failed.

Just to put some context to this mate.

8th was under Allardyce and Silva. Allardyce got 48 points (and came in after we had played all of the big 6 in our first ten games so had a plumb set of fixtures). He was also obnoxious and was sacked.

Silva got 8th and most fans accepted this was a decent season, very few wanted him gone at that point. However we didn't build on this at all. We had 14 points from 15 games the next season. Ancelotti came in and got 30 from 20, so it was a good turnaround. We had sacked a manager for his part in causing 12th.

The following season we had finished 10th, but with 59 points (which is the same amount as your best season). There was some frustration from some quarters but overall the point tally was good for a 1st season.

I suspect Nuno will be given a seasons grace whereby a top half finish will be ok. But if he doesn't kick on, I'm not sure how long he will be here. In fairness, no manager has kicked on in their 2nd year here under Moshiri, so difficult to say what he will do. He will likely be given funds to help with his team.

In fairness, it's a similar issue to what you have too. There's a glass ceiling you hit, which is around 60 points. Leicester have got past it, but even though have only got to 67 points in what is a great season. Getting to 55-60 is relatively easy, but to get beyond that is a lot harder. You've gone a very different direction too and taken a bit more of a gamble. It's hard though mate, you can do a lot right to have to get to 60 points, and you get a couple of things wrong and you go tumbling back down quite quickly.