2022/23 Nathan Patterson

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I don’t know, players come back from them but I’m not sure if they’re always the same. Van Dijk isn’t no matter how much the media spin it. People will cry ‘he was always rubbish’ but Bolasie’s ACL pretty much finished him as a top flight player and ended his career with us. Same with Mangala, same with Tosun, same with Besic. People may have had views on their effectiveness before but they went from getting minutes in the first team to being completely out of the squad picture.

Even as far back as Jagielka Arteta and Yakubu (can’t think of another club who has had three ACLs in one season), Jagielka bounced back the best but never truly had that lightning pace he had before. Arteta lost his edge, he relied on technique and became a deep lying midfielder that we saw at Arsenal but the Arteta who could play on the wing and take on fullbacks was gone for ever. Yakubu was completely finished apart from a swan song at Blackburn.

They’re career destroyers, there’s the odd player who has come back at a decent level but there’s not many who come back just as good. I wouldn’t trust any players rehabilitation to our medical team either. If it’s an ACL it’s a nightmare for the lad, let’s pray it’s not.
After his injury Jagielka came back, took over the captaincy, won our player of the year award again, won 37 of his 40 England caps, played 283 PL games, and is still playing at a high level 14 years later. To say it ruined his career is a very strange take.
 
After his injury Jagielka came back, took over the captaincy, won our player of the year award again, won 37 of his 40 England caps, played 283 PL games, and is still playing at a high level 14 years later. To say it ruined his career is a very strange take.

It didn’t ruin it, but he was never as quick again. He was still very good after he came back but before that him and Lescott were being touted as the best CB pairing in the prem behind Vidic and Ferdinand. Lescott went onto play for City whereas at one point some might have said Jagielka was just as good if not better than him, he was certainly quicker and better in the air:

After his injury he was never in that conversation again. Sure he was good enough for Everton and had a good career but no big club would have come knocking on his door after that.
 


Well if we know any ambitious premier league side, we should be sure to let them know.

* for the record though, Coleman was a top premier league right back, we were lucky to have him. Even last season was far from the worst performer despite age getting the better of him.
The veneration of the now mediocre Coleman amongst some sections of the fanbase is one more reason why we are indeed not a truly ambitious club.

He's a mediocre player in a mediocre team. And has been - as we have been - for almost all of his tenure at the club. Any truly technically excellent Everton player over the last 20 years has eventually left for greener pastures (Rooney, Arteta, Lukaku). You could add Richarlison to that list - though he's merely potential at this stage. The likes of Jagielka, Cahill, Baines, and Coleman were good honest pros at their peaks, but none ever scaled the heights at club level and their trophy cabinets tell a tale. Of those, only Baines was technically good. Cahill had an incredible mentality. That's often enough to be successful at international level where success for the vast majority is rarely measured in terms of medals. But technically? Leon Osman was better.
 
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