Muhamed Besic

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Who remembers last season when we were gash, Besic and Barkley played together in cm against QPR (I think) and they played boss. We won a game for once, then Barry and McCarthy came back from injury the following week..Martinez did his usual and started taking Besic off for his favourites, the crowd went bananas, what's my point? Dunno, but you get my point.

Besic is boss
 
It is possible to look at a players attributes and decide that he is better based on limited appearances. I only needed to see Rooney a few times to know he was going to be a bit player than Barlow.

McCarthy is a fairly limited player and is not really going to improve. Besic has more potential and is better in virtually every way except experience. Faster, more aggressive, better on the ball, better passer, winning attitude. You might need 3 years to judge a player. Some of us can spot talent quicker.

McCarthy is quick, probably as quick as Besic is over 10 yards.

'Winning attitude' - pretty sure you don't win an FA Cup at Wigan without a 'winning attitude'
 
Who remembers last season when we were gash, Besic and Barkley played together in cm against QPR (I think) and they played boss. We won a game for once, then Barry and McCarthy came back from injury the following week..Martinez did his usual and started taking Besic off for his favourites, the crowd went bananas, what's my point? Dunno, but you get my point.

Besic is boss

Besic got a bit of unfair stick at times last season, but I don't think he was helped by playing alongside Barry (who at the time had lost some form) as Besic' natural instinct was to drop back and dictate play from deep.

The problem was that Barry also did exactly the same thing, so Besic was then having to go further upfield and at that time was wasteful when he got in attacking positions.

Now he's improved in that aspect as well as his fitness and power - so he's able to slot into that 'high energy' McCarthy role alongside Barry
 
Hahaha at "some of us can spot talent quicker".

Do you find it fun to make guesses based on gut feeling and present them as fact?

Your presenting your opinion that McCarthy is a better player than Besic as a fact but it is merely opinion. Many people would disagree. You cite the evidence which appears to be the length of time that McCarthy has played for Everton but that is only evidence of McCarthy's quality. It is not evidence that he his a better player than Besic. You don't have enough evidence to judge Besics quality as a player yet so you are therefore making an assumption based on familiarity. How long did it take you to see that Rooney was a better player than Rideout?
 
If I had to choose between McCarthy and Besic it would not be an easy choice. McCarthy is all over the pitch and slots in to cover other players very well. I think he breaks up the game a bit better than Besic. Now with Besic I see a ball player in there that is not in McCarthy. Besic can get us on the front foot better than McCarthy by keeping the ball better or releasing other players. McCarthy is a getter then will play the simple unexciting ball. I hope there is a place for both in the team as it would obviously make us tougher in the middle. As much as I love Barry he is easily lost by a simple shimmy only because he is slow on the turn. I am opting for Besic but only just....his link up play wins it for me.
 
Think the fanbase is split, those that want the taste of Kelly Brook's minge i.e. Besic, Mirrrallas on the pitch

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and those that have settled for a "less exciting" taste dripping into their mouths

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If I had to choose between McCarthy and Besic it would not be an easy choice. McCarthy is all over the pitch and slots in to cover other players very well. I think he breaks up the game a bit better than Besic. Now with Besic I see a ball player in there that is not in McCarthy. Besic can get us on the front foot better than McCarthy by keeping the ball better or releasing other players. McCarthy is a getter then will play the simple unexciting ball. I hope there is a place for both in the team as it would obviously make us tougher in the middle. As much as I love Barry he is easily lost by a simple shimmy only because he is slow on the turn. I am opting for Besic but only just....his link up play wins it for me.
Barrys stats put both to shame, hes the mainstay and its who should partner him and for me its gotta be besic next to him
 
Jimmy Mac was my absolute fave before his injury, but I don't see how he can just walk in and take his spot back now with Besic playing so well.

Besic would have to get injured or have a poor run of form before I could realistically call for Jimmy Mac to be back in the side. Besic has earned his place with some great play

I'd love them to play together, but Barry doesn't deserve to be dropped either

Proper selection headache for Martinez now
 
Barrys stats put both to shame, hes the mainstay and its who should partner him and for me its gotta be besic next to him

  • Don't get me wrong I rate him highly especially when he is on the ball and his passing and making space to receive but I just find defensively he is sluggish like when he let Fabregas go against Chelsea. Turn on a sixpence he cannot do. I wouldn't mind Barry moving forward a little and McCarthy or even Besic trying his role for a bit to see how it goes.
 
Your presenting your opinion that McCarthy is a better player than Besic as a fact but it is merely opinion. Many people would disagree. You cite the evidence which appears to be the length of time that McCarthy has played for Everton but that is only evidence of McCarthy's quality. It is not evidence that he his a better player than Besic. You don't have enough evidence to judge Besics quality as a player yet so you are therefore making an assumption based on familiarity. How long did it take you to see that Rooney was a better player than Rideout?
I asked you a question and note your avoidance. Citing Rooney as a one off player of his generation in comparison to Besic will not help your case either sir.

Does one sit in the Lower Gwladys per chance?
 
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