Muhamed Besic

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Martinez started off using Stones in the last 5 minutes or so early last season so it's not really any different to that. The game was lost anyway so he was just giving him some minutes in front of a big Goodison crowd.

Good job it didn't backheel backfire...

I jest of course, he looks a good player, just hope fans don't write him off after one daft mistake in a match we were already losing 5-3.
 
Good job it didn't backheel backfire...

I jest of course, he looks a good player, just hope fans don't write him off after one daft mistake in a match we were already losing 5-3.

Martinez certainly won't, he'll have his chance to show what he can do.
 
were too slow getting the ball forward at times, Lukaku is making the run on the last man only to see the ball going side ways or back. How many goals did the red [Poor language removed] score last season with 3 passes as we seem to need 15 to 20 to get to the edge of the box. We are missing Barkley so much but not as much as LUkaku at present.
scoring goals is not our problem right now.
 
Martinez started off using Stones in the last 5 minutes or so early last season so it's not really any different to that. The game was lost anyway so he was just giving him some minutes in front of a big Goodison crowd.
And he completely failed. Sell him while we still have the chance.
 
Does anyone remember last season (I think) when Osman had a howler (I think he cost us a goal, not sure) and the next game Martinez made him captain and he played well?

Everyone called it great "man management" at the time.

Perhaps Martinez has to do something similar with Besic. Obviously not captain, but show the fans he has faith in Besic's ability.
 
He'll be fine, it'll take him a while. It's why people asking for him to be put straight in or replace Barry or whatever was so stupid, you can't just throw someone in like that. I'm glad it was to make it 6-3 rather than 4-2 or 5-3 but he seems a confident lad anyway.
 
He'll be fine, it'll take him a while. It's why people asking for him to be put straight in or replace Barry or whatever was so stupid, you can't just throw someone in like that. I'm glad it was to make it 6-3 rather than 4-2 or 5-3 but he seems a confident lad anyway.

I'm not sure about that Barry has let the games from a defensive point of view pass him by.

Plus you generally get these mistakes when players have limited time on the pitch to impress.

With the EL coming up one way or the other we're going to see how good this kid is pretty soon.
 
Not the best circumstances to bring on a player for his debut but either way everything's already been said, Besic'll show his talent once given another chance hopefully against West Brom. Put him on from the 1st minute instead of Barry or McCarthy and Martinez will never want to take him off
 
It shows how confident Besic is in his own ability. However, he has to learn that he is now playing in a league where errors are punished by goals nearly every time.
It happened, the game was already lost at that stage,move on.
 
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