Moyes Watch @ Real Sociedad

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Plenty of historical revisionism going on here especially from Moyes' former biggest cheerleader damon.

Of course he should not come back - going back generally doesn't work, ever.

But right now we could do with some of the defensive discipline and renowned team spirit he built up here over a long period instead of being tippy-tappy pushovers who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
 
On our continual budget, I struggle to think of a manager in the PL era to have been such a success in terms of transfers (In and Out) than Moyes.

The semi solid (giggidy) financial footing we find ourselves on now compared to when he took over is literally universes of difference between.
 
L4Everton said:
On our continual budget, I struggle to think of a manager in the PL era to have been such a success in terms of transfers (In and Out) than Moyes.

The semi solid (giggidy) financial footing we find ourselves on now compared to when he took over is literally universes of difference between.
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If only there was a trophy for that.

Like the harry redknapp knock out cup or somthing! But he probs would still of [Poor language removed] him self out of winning that too.
 
Wait a second...
Moyes beats Barcelona

Barcelona is in Catalonia

Roberto is Catalonian

Therefore, Moyes is greater than Roberto
Bring him home Bill!
 
fozzy said:
If only there was a trophy for that.

Like the harry redknapp knock out cup or somthing! But he probs would still of [Poor language removed] him self out of winning that too.
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I know, it's like we'd be better off as Forrest or Wednesday or Derby County....

Moyes was far from perfect, but I find it difficult to lay into him for rescuing our club, and/or for not signing a contract he knew he had no intention of honouring. He had us punching above the value we had running around on the pitch for us, take a breath, have a think about right now.
 
L4Everton said:
I know, it's like we'd be better off as Forrest or Wednesday or Derby County....

Moyes was far from perfect, but I find it difficult to lay into him for rescuing our club, and/or for not signing a contract he knew he had no intention of honouring. He had us punching above the value we had running around on the pitch for us, take a breath, have a think about right now.
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1st 4 years yes I agree.

But after that he crapped himself at every big game and had us at a point that we as a team should never have feared anyone but we did oh we did.

Now do you remember those days?

Oh and he never signed the contract he ran it down.

Remember!
 
Kurt said:
For 10 years I watched this knob bottle every game against a top 4 side.... Feks off to Spain and beats Barca first go.... Couldn't feckin make this up ha ha
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There's a misconception about Moyes as a bottler... He was, but not in the way people think.

It was a game he wasn't expected to win. Moyes specialises at those. In fact, if I'd have remembered it was on, I'd have put a tenner on Sociedad. It's what the man does. If there's nothing to lose, his teams battle to wins in unlikely circumstances. It's why he'll never take a side down.

It's the games he's expected to compete in he never wins - the ones where he actually bottles it. So to give an example, he'll beat Barcelona in the league when he's taken on relegation candidates and saves them from the drop, because the team has nothing to lose, but I can guarantee you that if he needed that win to qualify for Europe the odds on him doing so drop significantly, because what happens is that he feels the pressure to achieve rather than avoid failure - he goes cautious in his selections and subs and invites the loss.

Nobody ever denied he can get the underdogs fired up in search of an overall goal; what he cannot do is get the favourites fired up (see Wigan for details).

He's the anti-Martinez.
 
1-0 down striker off defender on please!

Oh I so want more of that!

And we are having a go at martinez for playing people out of postion ffs Moyes invented that on a very large scale!!

And I've never been a Martinez lover but think he shouldnt be sack yet.
 
Tubey said:
There's a misconception about Moyes as a bottler... He was, but not in the way people think.

It was a game he wasn't expected to win. Moyes specialises at those. In fact, if I'd have remembered it was on, I'd have put a tenner on Sociedad. It's what the man does. If there's nothing to lose, his teams battle to wins in unlikely circumstances. It's why he'll never take a side down.

It's the games he's expected to compete in he never wins - the ones where he actually bottles it. So to give an example, he'll beat Barcelona in the league when he's taken on relegation candidates and saves them from the drop, because the team has nothing to lose, but I can guarantee you that if he needed that win to qualify for Europe the odds on him doing so drop significantly, because what happens is that he feels the pressure to achieve rather than avoid failure - he goes cautious in his selections and subs and invites the loss.

Nobody ever denied he can get the underdogs fired up in search of an overall goal; what he cannot do is get the favourites fired up (see Wigan for details).

He's the anti-Martinez.
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Beating Man Utd to seal fourth nice n early, beating Man Utd in the Semi and taking the game to Chelsea and going ahead in the final before injuries and the gulf in player told?
Maybe he was over awed with what he achieved and had no place left to reach from the foundations he had laid. I dislike Smith and Walker a lot, I don't dislike Moyes, or Martinez or Royle. For instance.

Edited and damn quick.
 
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