Moyes: "maybe the supporters don't know and expect more"

[royalblue66]

Do you honestly believe that Moyes will go in the close season if he is guaranteed something like 20+mi for next season ?
I don't think so,over to you mr chairman.

 

[D410]

Do you honestly believe that Moyes will go in the close season if he is guaranteed something like 20+mi for next season ?
I don't think so,over to you mr chairman.

No offence but could you trust this board to hand over the best part of 20m from the TV deal money with outstanding debts (mortgages, bank debt, etc etc) to be serviced in the summer.

The board came up with 2m at the last minute in the transfer window just gone.

Moyes has a trust issue with the board on the money side and i don,t blame him one bit.

 

[steken1]

If Colin did post on here, I would say he would take exception to your "agenda" comment as far as I can tell he has spent years trying to look out for the club and fans where most looked the other way. Very Poor comment from yourself.

You would be very surpised if you knew about what our chairman is doing during transfer windows without the CEO,s knowledge - that,s for another day.

Fin, we are already a busted flush just limping along in our stagnation bubble with the future of the club in the hands of a few who not only have a proven track record of failure but have to pick the next manager !

He wouldn't. His agenda is clear as day and his pieces support that. I'm not questioning the content or Colin himself but he's after bringing about a change at the top and the piece supports it. To call it completely unbiased and objective would be foolish.

Also, remember I support his 'agenda' and have donated to KEIOC in the past so I'm not trying to suggest anything other than working at Everton isn't the worst thing for a manager.

 

[D410]

He wouldn't. His agenda is clear as day and his pieces support that. I'm not questioning the content or Colin himself but he's after bringing about a change at the top and the piece supports it. To call it completely unbiased and objective would be foolish.

Also, remember I support his 'agenda' and have donated to KEIOC in the past so I'm not trying to suggest anything other than working at Everton isn't the worst thing for a manager.

What part of his quotes are unbiased? He did,nt write the article and thanks for the clarity on your support with respect to KEIOC.

He wants change, we all support that so I see that as a neutralizing the seasaw that has been tipped in favour of the ownership for the last 14 years.

 

[royalblue66]

Why do you think Moyes has delayed signing a new contract ? I honestly think he is waiting to see what's on the table
Circa June, we are not going to find out before

 

[D410]

Why do you think Moyes has delayed signing a new contract ? I honestly think he is waiting to see what's on the table
Circa June, we are not going to find out before

Why? Guess...he wants to move the club forward...he needs the dough...real dough that allows him to keep his best players and compete for a top 4 place.

Down to Bill now...sell up or play russian roullete with the club in the summer.

 

[steken1]

What part of his quotes are unbiased? He did,nt write the article and thanks for the clarity on your support with respect to KEIOC.

Come on mate. You think that's completely straight down the middle objective? The way it's written is slanted to elicit a response in the reader that's negative towards our board. I hope it works there a shower of wrong'uns on an epic scale.

 

[D410]

Come on mate. You think that's completely straight down the middle objective? The way it's written is slanted to elicit a response in the reader that's negative towards our board. I hope it works there a shower of wrong'uns on an epic scale.

He wants change, we all support that so I see that as neutralizing the seasaw that has been tipped in favour of the ownership for the last 14 years

 

[steken1]

He wants change, we all support that so I see that as neutralizing the seasaw that has been tipped in favour of the ownership for the last 14 years

I agree with you. I only disagreed with the mentions purely in this debate as to Moyes and his attitude towards us. Remember he also attacked the BU at a point when it was gaining momentum and gathering support. Something he never had to do and is almost unheard of.

 

[D410]

I agree with you. I only disagreed with the mentions purely in this debate as to Moyes and his attitude towards us. Remember he also attacked the BU at a point when it was gaining momentum and gathering support. Something he never had to do and is almost unheard of.

Moyes-Yeah he has flipped sides a few times. Think it,s all coming to a head now.

 

[steken1]

Moyes-Yeah he has flipped sides a few times. Think it,s all coming to a head now.

He hasn't mate he's been a staunch Bill Kenwright supporter from day 1. He's constantly at his side whenever criticism comes Bill's way. Moyes is a big reason why a lot of our fans see Bill as the benevolent custodian that he so obviously isn't.

 

[Neiler]

Neiler you constantly try to misrepresent the views of others to make your own point. I don't know why???

I don't think you'd find a person on here, or anywhere else, who doesn't think he was right at the time. Even Davek agrees with that.

Most of the thrust of the Moyes should go argument is he will always lose you the games that really matter I.e.Cups. Most, including me, think a lot of stars would have to align for this squad to get into the CL regardless of who's in charge.

I haven't seen many demanding the next guy get us there??? Perhaps though being best of the rest for a while made people think it was the next logical step. For a while the trajectory was upward and when your moving forward you rarely look behind you.

Found your posts very contradictory of late mate, I think your emotional on this issue, which is fair enough, so mearly pointing out the incinsudtency IMO! The last to paragraphs in the above post illustrates!

 

[steken1]

Found your posts very contradictory of late mate, I think your emotional on this issue, which is fair enough, so mearly pointing out the incinsudtency IMO! The last to paragraphs in the above post illustrates!

Can't see the contradiction myself TBH.

Honestly mate it drives me mad that people think Everton Football Club could only thrive with Moyes in charge. The only aspect of his management I really rate is his eye for a player and his work ethic.

There's more than one way to skin a cat too.

Moyes doesn't use youth and hampers them IMO. People are saying we're gunna need to replace Distin, Neville, Osman and the like soon. We're skint so without Moyes how would we replace them?

Well another manager might have seen that we've got able replacements already at the club and started to develop them but people don't appear to see that stuff.

They also forget there's plenty of times we play like Stoke light and he allows it or encourages it. We've got class footballers here. Who says that we wouldn't get more out of them by playing football ALL THE TIME?

 

[njligernj]

"Sign the contract Moyes FFS!" ... what if he has given the board a contract? Same money for him w. guarantee of 5-10m net spend p/year for five years and the board won't sign that? We have no idea what is going on. I know it's frustrating but it doesn't mean it's all Moyes' fault (unless all of a sudden we don't want him to stand up to the board and demand more funds like we've specifically encouraged him to do for the last ten years?).

Bumping my own comment is horrifying I know but the comment from Stubbs seems to support this:

Alan Stubbs: "It’s irrelevant where Everton finish in terms of whether David Moyes stays. The manager would love to finish in fourth place because that would get them into the Champions League.

"But the decision is more off the pitch rather than on the pitch. It will be about his budget. He’ll want assurances about what players get sold and the amount of money that he’ll get to spend from those transfers.

"He wants to see the direction that the club is taking before he commits his future to it. It’s a crossroads for the board as well, not just the manager."

Does this change anyone's mind or not still not enough?

 

[electricblue]

Bumping my own comment is horrifying I know but the comment from Stubbs seems to support this:

Alan Stubbs: "It’s irrelevant where Everton finish in terms of whether David Moyes stays. The manager would love to finish in fourth place because that would get them into the Champions League.

"But the decision is more off the pitch rather than on the pitch. It will be about his budget. He’ll want assurances about what players get sold and the amount of money that he’ll get to spend from those transfers.

"He wants to see the direction that the club is taking before he commits his future to it. It’s a crossroads for the board as well, not just the manager."

Does this change anyone's mind or not still not enough?

It just reinforces my view that he is going at the end of the season and doesn't want to announce it publicly yet.

Let's face it - he isn't going to get the assurances he wants otherwise they would have been given already.

I just hope they've already identified potential replacements.