minimum 5th gets Europe...can we make it?

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No not that all. Read back my posts and if you fail to get the clear points that I've made then I worry about your powers of comprehension Annie lad.

I just don't think you have much of an argument.

When somebody can show me a manager who can come in and do what Moyes does on his budget then i'll happily show him the door.
 
I just don't think you have much of an argument.

When somebody can show me a manager who can come in and do what Moyes does on his budget then i'll happily show him the door.

You're going to try and argue semantics rather than the points I've clearly made lid. It might work on others but you've barely just got wee copper pubes so you don't stand a chance.

Unless you've got a crystal ball then who's going to be able to show you that manager? With some luck we'll get a manager who gets the club as Moyes did when he was first here. Or we'll get a manager who doesn't see Neville instead of Gibson as a reasonable selection in our biggest game of the season. Or maybe just maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't consider it as viable option to put the reserves out for an important league game at Anfield. Hell maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't flunk vital games. Now keep a ginger lid on your enthusiasm but imagine we got a manager who won us something?

F*cking hell. Imagine that.

Pipe down Kia-Ora lad.
 

I just don't think you have much of an argument.

When somebody can show me a manager who can come in and do what Moyes does on his budget then i'll happily show him the door.

Steve Clarke's doing similar or better at WBA, Laudrup's done better than Moyes at Swansea even the fella your ripping has got his side ****ting teams left, right and centre and bang in form when it matters.

He's not a fcuking miracle worker by any stretch. Average 15th to average 8th in 11 years.

I hope he goes this summer. Because another five years of him means a guarantee of five years of failure when it matters and no trophies.
 
You're going to try and argue semantics rather than the points I've clearly made lid. It might work on others but you've barely just got wee copper pubes so you don't stand a chance.

Unless you've got a crystal ball then who's going to be able to show you that manager? With some luck we'll get a manager who gets the club as Moyes did when he was first here. Or we'll get a manager who doesn't see Neville instead of Gibson as a reasonable selection in our biggest game of the season. Or maybe just maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't consider it as viable option to put the reserves out for an important league game at Anfield. Hell maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't flunk vital games. Now keep a ginger lid on your enthusiasm but imagine we got a manager who won us something?

F*cking hell. Imagine that.

Pipe down Kia-Ora lad.

Out of all the stuff said this weekend.. that fact / quote is the scariest.
Totally baffling selection, even if Neville was playing ok.
 
You're going to try and argue semantics rather than the points I've clearly made lid. It might work on others but you've barely just got wee copper pubes so you don't stand a chance.

Unless you've got a crystal ball then who's going to be able to show you that manager? With some luck we'll get a manager who gets the club as Moyes did when he was first here. Or we'll get a manager who doesn't see Neville instead of Gibson as a reasonable selection in our biggest game of the season. Or maybe just maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't consider it as viable option to put the reserves out for an important league game at Anfield. Hell maybe we'll get a manager who doesn't flunk vital games. Now keep a ginger lid on your enthusiasm but imagine we got a manager who won us something?

F*cking hell. Imagine that.

Pipe down Kia-Ora lad.

What points ? I see nothing other than picking at Moyes' weaknesses. Where is the viable alternative to David Moyes ? If you want him gone, you must surely think there's a reasonable chance of us getting somebody who can perform as well or better. And if you can't name that replacement, why on earth do you think Kenwright will find somebody ?

After yesterday's performance i'd have loved to have shown Fellaini the door, but he's one of our best players and without him we'd be weaker. The same is true of David Moyes. We all know he has his failings, but i don't see the better alternative, and i don't think you do either.
 
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What points ? I see nothing other than picking at Moyes' weaknesses. Where is the viable alternative to David Moyes ? If you want him gone, you must surely think there's a reasonable chance of us getting somebody who can perform as well or better. And if you can't name that replacement, why on earth do you think Kenwright will find somebody ?

There was many like you when we were pondering jibbing off Smith. I dare say there was many fretting last season over Rodgers going at Swansea and Hodgson at West Brom.
the below will prompt you to wiki years between winning trophies Statto*
There's no guarantee of success but the alternative is stagnation which is what we've been in for four years now so that's long enough. Everton have a history of winning trophies throughout their history. Eighteen years is too long.
 
Steve Clarke's doing similar or better at WBA, Laudrup's done better than Moyes at Swansea even the fella your ripping has got his side ****ting teams left, right and centre and bang in form when it matters.

He's not a fcuking miracle worker by any stretch. Average 15th to average 8th in 11 years.

I hope he goes this summer. Because another five years of him means a guarantee of five years of failure when it matters and no trophies.

There is more to the Everton job than the performance on the pitch.

Moyes' transfers have kept the club going for years. Brendan Rodgers may well be a good manager, but we could not afford to spunk £25m on Fabio Borini and Joe Allen. For half that Moyes got us Gibson, Mirallas, and Oviedo.
 

There is more to the Everton job than the performance on the pitch.

Moyes' transfers have kept the club going for years. Brendan Rodgers may well be a good manager, but we could not afford to spunk £25m on Fabio Borini and Joe Allen. For half that Moyes got us Gibson, Mirallas, and Oviedo.

That's usually the yardstick for determining a manager's success in fairness mate.
 
There was many like you when we were pondering jibbing off Smith. I dare say there was many fretting last season over Rodgers going at Swansea and Hodgson at West Brom.
the below will prompt you to wiki years between winning trophies Statto*
There's no guarantee of success but the alternative is stagnation which is what we've been in for four years now so that's long enough. Everton have a history of winning trophies throughout their history. Eighteen years is too long.

Your crack smoking has distorted history.

Nobody wanted Smith to stay, I doubt even Smith wanted to stay in the end.
 
And if you can't name that replacement, why on earth do you think Kenwright will find somebody ?

Eh? It's his job ffs. Ideally, he'll employ headhunters to find an adventurous rousing attack-minded young continental coach, who'll bring his own ambitious coaching-team with him.

We have to steer well clear of the merry-go-round (Jol, Hughes, McCarthy, McLeish, Bruce, Dowie etc). And sticking with the old boys (Neville, Stubbs, even Dunc) is also hardly gonna help us improve.

Bring someone completely fresh in that many of us have never even heard of (after all, who had heard of Moyes while he was at Preston?).

BK has the funds to employ headhunting specialists...I hope he uses them.
 
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