The Media in general seem to have some lingering animosity towards Everton. It all started back in the 60s when Catterick wouldn't put up with any of their nonsense and virtually shut them out. At the same time Shankly would indulge them big time and they loved him. Liverpool then went on to win tons of stuff in the 70s and became massive media darlings. At that time the media would cream over Liverpool and their other darlings Man Utd and Arsenal but seemed to be covertly negative about Everton and that attitude seemed to seep through many aspects of English football. It was always "ooh Everton are in Liverpool shadow" despite the fact at that time they were'nt THAT far ahead of us. And Look at the England squads in the 70s...Everton players barely featured throughout the decade. It even got to the point where Everton would sign top players who had featured for England but then who never got called up again once they were Everton players, for example Martin Dobson, Mike Pejic, Dave Thomas. Even Bob Latchford only won 12 caps despite the fact he was easily the best English striker for a large part of the decade. Maybe it's just paranoia but ever since then the media still always seems to have some covert hosility towards Everton. Maybe once we install Ancelotti they'll change their tune.
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What is the source of this creeping paranoia? Are we going full-on conspiracy these days and declaring David Moyes was really a Liverpool double agent damaging both Everton and Man Utd covertly?
What are these inappropriate analyses or comments made by former Liverpool players in the media which are keeping us 'in our box'? How do these dark arts work? Please enlighten us. I bet Shankly and Paisley are kicking themselves for not masterminding this plan back in the 70s. If they had managed to get former Liverpool players as media pundits back then... Everton's performances in the 80s would never have happened... are we hearing ourselves?
It's a fact that the media is dominated by ex Liverpool players and fans. It's a consequence of them having a massive fan base.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
bluejim95
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Interesting point there. Both the tugboaters and Leicester have achieved CL. But somehow Leicester, even having actually qualified as Champions, are not seen as one of the big 6.
And herein lies the problem. The definition of a big club, I hate the term. It implies a scale, that scale is simply the viewer ratings.
Spurs getting Mourinho is just as absurd as us getting Ancelotti... media is driven for the intended viewer, the fact they focus on negative press is simply because the RS are obsessed with us.. what is the point of Everton if you are in media... simply to make cash from obsessed RS mutants.
Agreed. There's no evidence for a conspiracy. Indeed some of these former Liverpool players that are on TV grew up as Everton fans, like Carragher for example.
Why some people always seem to reach for the most extreme reasoning possible to explain something rather than the most likely or simple explanation I will never fully understand. With regard to supposed negative comments about Everton, one could simply suggest that such comments were not unfair speculation based on our position in the league and results this season, the recruitment policy etc etc. It's little different to what has been said a hundred times in a number of these forum threads. Still, It would be easier to see or show this apparent bias against Everton if they were performing well this season.
There's a clear bias but it's not a conspiracy. These are Liverpool fans in powerful media positions who can't stay subjective.
There's mountains of evidence just from this with Ancelotti alone, but go and read and listen to opinions when Moshiri came in and when we were "plucky little Everton" under Moyes and so on. Its clear as day.
gonetomorrow
Player Valuation: £70m
There's no conspiracy! Don't be ridiculous.
PKwalnuts
Player Valuation: £15m
Who gives a fat one what anyone unconnected with the club thinks or says about Everton.
Kopite trait that. Wanting to be adulated on everything.
It will be even sweeter when the darlings have to eat their words when Everton are challenging for honours again.
Seen all this with Chelsea then City. Being patronised in this way by these people is a compliment in my eyes. Laugh at it and at them. See it for what it is.
They'll never be Evertonians like us. Feel sorry for them
Kopite trait that. Wanting to be adulated on everything.
It will be even sweeter when the darlings have to eat their words when Everton are challenging for honours again.
Seen all this with Chelsea then City. Being patronised in this way by these people is a compliment in my eyes. Laugh at it and at them. See it for what it is.
They'll never be Evertonians like us. Feel sorry for them
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £50m
I do think there are some obnoxious and disingenuous types, truth is we haven’t given them much to shut up with , not for a long time and it’s a reputation problem perhaps.
Yes we have had success in our history but it isn’t recent history. 1995 was a long time ago. We need to shut them up with success and if Carlo joins, he brings in some quality players that do well, we will be on our way to doing that.
Yes we have had success in our history but it isn’t recent history. 1995 was a long time ago. We need to shut them up with success and if Carlo joins, he brings in some quality players that do well, we will be on our way to doing that.
I doubt it and I'll give you an example. Recall when Everton finished 4th and Liverpool finished 5th under Moyes. Liverpool then won the CL the same season.
Now, according to the view that there is a 'powerful Liverpool supporting media' and that it will seize on an opportunity to further Liverpool's interests (or to damage Everton's whichever view is preferred) this would have been the perfect opportunity to screw Everton in favour of Liverpool. Yet that didn't happen.
In fact the media and the FA fought and lobbied UEFA not to try and kick-out Everton (4th) in exchange for Liverpool (5th) as the holders. Instead they lobbied for Liverpool's inclusion in the following season's competition and that it must not occur at the expense of Everton which is what the rule now states should happen. There are inconvenient things that sometimes show that media are actually not interested in one team's interests over another. There was nothing in the rules to suggest that UEFA would allow Liverpool in as a 5th team and they repeatedly said Everton must make way for Liverpool. Yet the FA refused to do this and the media backed them.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
We're not currently part of the big brand-sell to the sky-armchair-elite-sheep .
There's no bias other than big corps don't like change threatening their grasp on money acquisition- and big corps and the media are bed fellows.
Simple as.
If you're looking for sporting competition look elsewhere than pro football for now. Until we become a saleable brand and suddenly add to the excitement of gaining VAR points.
There's no bias other than big corps don't like change threatening their grasp on money acquisition- and big corps and the media are bed fellows.
Simple as.
If you're looking for sporting competition look elsewhere than pro football for now. Until we become a saleable brand and suddenly add to the excitement of gaining VAR points.
Again, I'm not saying there's a conspiracy - I'm saying it's cold hard fact that the media is dominated by ex-RS players and fans on screen and radio, and in key editorial positions.
Which Premier League club is best represented by pundits on TV?
The era of Hansen and Lawrenson is long gone, so which club now dominates the airwaves? Sportsmail looks at the key pundits from the major TV rights holders and assesses the loyalties.
They are objective in their views, they have a natural bias towards Liverpool. They don't sit down and plan it, but when you have the following dominating the discussion in the last decade...
Alan Hansen, Mark Lawrenson, Graham Souness, Dietmar Hamann, Michael Owen, Jamie Carragher, Micky Quinn, Robbie Fowler, Steve McManaman, Kevin Keegan, Jan Molby, Phil Thompson, Emlyn Hughes, Jamie Redknapp, Alan Green, Colin Murray, Martin Tyler, Steve Wilson, Danny Murphy, David James, Ray Houghton, Stan Collymore, Jim Beglin, John Barnes, Neil Mellor etc. etc. etc.
... to name a few, then obviously you're going to see anti-Everton sentiment. You'd have to be blind and daft not to see it.
If I hear another 'no disrepect to Everton' my foot is going thru the telly and the radio out the window.
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