Meanwhile in America

[dandydan]

i'll continue discussing this if you tell me your previous username before you got banned for racism

Come again?

 

[dandydan]

They won't, and it isnt though. The problem with the US and gun control is that there are so many firearms in circulation (probably more than a billion) that it would be impossible to have any agreed reform - it wouldn't do anything apart from taking guns off people who held them legally and who wouldn't have been going around doing these spree killings. The only thing that would work is a mass gun hunt involving all sections of the military and law enforcement descending en masse and seizing everyone's guns, which would probably result in a bloodbath.

What would be better for them to do is to look honestly at why it is that people want to do these things; if you look at most spree killers there are a surprising number of common factors that are to an extent made worse by the unique nature of US society.

Finally some sense.

 

[bluemangroup]

Come again?

As Monica Lewinskis dry cleaner said.

 

[tsubaki]

Has america ever tried an amnesty of some kind for people to hand guns in without being charged, I wonder what the results would be

Given that most firearms over there are legally held and there is a thriving market for second hand guns, I don't think an amnesty would do that much unless the cops offered more money than they were worth.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

i'll continue discussing this if you tell me your previous username before you got banned for racism

Just start with suits blue and work forward from there.

You could be some time though.

 

[FCBarça]

There is some truth to the first point, the laws in canada are not a million miles apart yet the culture is

More than a kernel of truth to it, many countries with higher per capita gun ownership but nowhere near the homicides & mass mayhem of the wild, wild west

 

[ItsOKImAPilot]

I am an American gun owner. I am also a single woman who has been living by myself near large, dangerous cities my whole life. The gun doesn't leave the safe I have at a strategic proximity where I can reach it if I need to in a split second. Being part of a targeted demographic doesn't make me feel the need to pack heat everywhere I go. I just don't get that mentality.

In most cases I don't think a gun will protect you and others in the event of an active shooter. In fact, I think having a bunch of cowboys firing their guns off in hopes of hitting the assailant would make matters much worse. Anyone that tells you they can shoot well under stress and pressure with the intent to take another person's life has most likely never been in the position to do so. It's not easy.

In a perfect world where all gun owners are intelligent, calm, and responsible, guns could serve as a deterrent to people wishing to conduct mass casualty shootings. That's not the case and now all we have are a bunch of trigger-happy people going to Trader Joe's with a gun in their pants. I think intensive training and background checks are necessary to obtain guns and I am not in favor of concealed carry in 90% of places.

In Virginia you can obtain a gun if you can count your toes and cook toast. That's how a psycho recently acquired a gun to kill a young journalist and cameraman on live TV. Lastly, I hate the argument that criminals will get guns regardless. No scheiße, but it is still too easy for them to find weapons because we have so many guns around to begin with.

 

[verreauxi]

I can't remember where we stand now as a nation (I need to update my NRA mass-shooting-reform-counter app), but I think we have only 58--or is it 57?--more mass shootings left before we decide to do something about it. Reform is just over the horizon for this great and civilized nation! I'm gonna be positively giddy when it drops to less than 20 more mass shooting to go before reform time. Hooray for progress.

 

[Hellerad]

But if we take away guns, who will protect us from the gub'ment?

 

[ItsOKImAPilot]

I can't remember where we stand now as a nation (I need to update my NRA mass-shooting-reform-counter app), but I think we have only 58--or is it 57?--more mass shootings left before we decide to do something about it. Reform is just over the horizon for this great and civilized nation! I'm gonna be positively giddy when it drops to less than 20 more mass shooting to go before reform time. Hooray for progress.

Don't you tuk mer gerns!

 

[BMFin]

Has america ever tried an amnesty of some kind for people to hand guns in without being charged, I wonder what the results would be

Yes, in the city of Orlando there's a program called Kicks for Guns. People can turn in a gun, legally or illegally owned, for a gift card. It has been going on for 10-15 years. Thing is, most guns are legally owned. The criminals aren't turning theirs in.

 

[Walken]

Just start with suits blue and work forward from there.

You could be some time though.

hahaha indeed

 

[bignev23]

Surprised this stuff is still making the news over here.

 

[The Cowboy]

I am an American gun owner. I am also a single woman who has been living by myself near large, dangerous cities my whole life. The gun doesn't leave the safe I have at a strategic proximity where I can reach it if I need to in a split second. Being part of a targeted demographic doesn't make me feel the need to pack heat everywhere I go. I just don't get that mentality.

In most cases I don't think a gun will protect you and others in the event of an active shooter. In fact, I think having a bunch of cowboys firing their guns off in hopes of hitting the assailant would make matters much worse. Anyone that tells you they can shoot well under stress and pressure with the intent to take another person's life has most likely never been in the position to do so. It's not easy.

In a perfect world where all gun owners are intelligent, calm, and responsible, guns could serve as a deterrent to people wishing to conduct mass casualty shootings. That's not the case and now all we have are a bunch of trigger-happy people going to Trader Joe's with a gun in their pants. I think intensive training and background checks are necessary to obtain guns and I am not in favor of concealed carry in 90% of places.

In Virginia you can obtain a gun if you can count your toes and cook toast. That's how a psycho recently acquired a gun to kill a young journalist and cameraman on live TV. Lastly, I hate the argument that criminals will get guns regardless. No scheiße, but it is still too easy for them to find weapons because we have so many guns around to begin with.

Good post. But as I said in an earlier post, the 2nd amendment is to allow you to bear arms in order to establish a local militia. It's not so you can feel safe in case you get burgled.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Most gun murders are comitted by people using illegally held guns.

Ok, but what's wrong with trying to fix SOME of the problem. Yeah it won't take care of all the murders, but surely some impact is better than just settling for these mass shootings happening on a weekly basis?