Oh, right, I forgot we have to go for a lower PL club manager who has minimal success.
No, I don't think that's rule. So you can probably go back to the drawing board with your plan.
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Oh, right, I forgot we have to go for a lower PL club manager who has minimal success.
39 would be so pathetic, in fact in 2010–11 both Blackpool and Birmingham City got relegated on 39.Completely different time.
I wouldn’t have Moyes back, but finishing on 39 points with what he inherited from Walter Smith and the lack of budget he was working with was not completely unexpected.
Finishing on 39 points with this Everton team is ridiculous.
You or I wouldnt know how Moyes would do with this squad.I never said it would be 39 this season.
You said: "We had 39 points for the season. Not sure how some on here would react if that was the same this season with Moyes in charge."
My point is, 39 points with that squad was very different and Moyes would not rack up 39 points with this current team, it's pretty much unthinkable.
Exactly. People have very selctive and defective memories. He slightly overachieved in the league in early years. In his later years we had the 6/7th highest wage bill in the prem and that were we finished. His record in cup competitions and Europe was utter SHYTE.You or I wouldnt know how Moyes would do with this squad.
Theres nowt guaranteed .
It could be like Sunderland or Sociedad.
My point was that was his 2nd season....and Silva is 7 months into his reign.
Btw these where in his squad that finished 17th.
Martyn
Unsworth
Stubbs
Weir
Yobo
Gravesen
Carsley
Rooney
Campbell
Ferguson
Moyes....na no thanks.
As I said very very lucky man.
Mate that's only just under 6 months.5 wins since November.
In the bin.
Sam had a ceiling, he reached it 20 years ago with Bolton.
Silva has yet to reach his ceiling or maybe it was winning the Greece league, the fact is that 1 is unknown, the other is known.
Will Silva ever get a team above 11th?
Who knows, but wouldnt you rather find out? Cos to be frank, the next manager we get wont be "better" than Silva/Martinez/Koeman/BigSam.
No we shouldnt have retained Martinez, he had 3 seasons and crapped the bed in 2 of them, he cant say he wasnt given every chance, should we have kept Koeman? Possibly.
Agree with this more or less apart from I think Koeman also had a ceiling. I wasn't expecting him to half destroy the club like, but was certain he didn't have anything more than say 7th in him.
You could throw the manager options into 3 buckets I think
- top manager
- safe and solid option
- various levels of progressive prospects
We are not in a position to get the first option right now. We are not going to achieve what we want with the second option. So it's going to be the third, and whether that's another season of Silva or another couple of those types of managers before we get there, we are going to have to show patience at some point. So why not now.
You or I wouldnt know how Moyes would do with this squad.
Theres nowt guaranteed .
It could be like Sunderland or Sociedad.
My point was that was his 2nd season....and Silva is 7 months into his reign.
Btw these where in his squad that finished 17th.
Martyn
Unsworth
Stubbs
Weir
Yobo
Gravesen
Carsley
Rooney
Campbell
Ferguson
Moyes....na no thanks.
As I said very very lucky man.
Agree with this more or less apart from I think Koeman also had a ceiling. I wasn't expecting him to half destroy the club like, but was certain he didn't have anything more than say 7th in him.
You could throw the manager options into 3 buckets I think
- top manager
- safe and solid option
- various levels of progressive prospects
We are not in a position to get the first option right now. We are not going to achieve what we want with the second option. So it's going to be the third, and whether that's another season of Silva or another couple of those types of managers before we get there, we are going to have to show patience at some point. So why not now.