I would agree there alright.Because he's a clueless buffoon mate who's also badly advised by that snake Kenwright.
When you dont look any further than your nose for a manager you'll never go anywhere.
You only had to read the Barca forums on both players.No it's the club as a whole. The mentality from top to bottom. Playing staff don't change that.
When you replace Baines and Jagielka with two players from Barcelona and there's no difference whatsoever to the mentality on the pitch, you don't look to the playing staff for the answer.
These aren't bad players. They just have come into an environment where you aren't pushed to be the best you can be.