Manchester United

[YoboCopter]

They are like Blockbusters: great in the day (the brand for the weekend), but they have slowly sleep-walked into a crisis that is only getting deeper and deeper.

Old Trafford is a dump, Carrington has been starved as investment (being there regularly, it's shabby!) and they have spent hundreds of millions on rubbish.

Out of today's starting XI, how many would get into most of the top six teams? Top eight? K'in ell, how many would we take off them, even on the cheap?

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I even checked for injuries and it's Shaw, Martinez, Mount, Evans, Diallo and Eriksen, so you couldn't even say that is a real issue. It's just a poor squad!

With how much they have wasted on spending and PSR, they are going to struggle to rebuild quickly, and that's only if they can get rid of lots of the dross.

They aren't going down this year (not with the teams below them), although I do think they may continue to slip into midtable abyss for a year or two.

Always seem to be spending loads dont they and as you say that squad is terrible

Think how “bad” city have been this season and man utd are absolutly miles away

 

[jamieni]

they’re still a huge franchise annoying

Yeah but they are in dire straits financially. No European footy next season, Ineos not doing great by all accounts and PSR issues. They’re headed for trouble.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Yeah but they are in dire straits financially. No European footy next season, Ineos not doing great by all accounts and PSR issues. They’re headed for trouble.

There are rumours of a Ronaldo led Saudi buyout of the entire club at the moment, Interesting to see what happens in the coming months.

 

[FCBarça]

What do you mean? England’s most successful and inarguably biggest club? Why are they a ‘marketing entity’ and not a football club?

More than a decade of irrelevance with US owners who clearly prioritize the commercial aspects of the brand than sporting success. There is no sporting philosophy and are indistinguishable from a factory like Chelsea. They have been left in the dust by their crosstown neighbors by just about every sporting metric

It is a brand that maintains value for their owners who have even shed a minority stake to give the illusion it can be run as a football club but their play hasn’t inspired anything related to football for a long time, bragging to your mates about your market cap just doesn’t have the same ring as winning a title or competing in an inspiring manner

If football were burgers, ManYoo would be McDo - cheap but boring product that is in heavy advertising rotation.

 

[summerisle]

 

[BlueAmigo]

Wolves were probably the most famous club in the world mid 50's. Thirty years later they were on the verge of bankruptcy, in division 4 and almost jettisoned from the league! Stemmed from spending ridiculous amounts of money on a stand redevelopment. Get carried away spending money you don't have, there's consequences down the line. I suspect Man U are in some dire, dire trouble and the clown Ratcliffe doesn't realise he's going to be the scapegoat.

 

[Rita_Poon]

More than a decade of irrelevance with US owners who clearly prioritize the commercial aspects of the brand than sporting success. There is no sporting philosophy and are indistinguishable from a factory like Chelsea. They have been left in the dust by their crosstown neighbors by just about every sporting metric

It is a brand that maintains value for their owners who have even shed a minority stake to give the illusion it can be run as a football club but their play hasn’t inspired anything related to football for a long time, bragging to your mates about your market cap just doesn’t have the same ring as winning a title or competing in an inspiring manner

If football were burgers, ManYoo would be McDo - cheap but boring product that is in heavy advertising rotation.

So ineos need another 26% to start calling the shots.

Funny thing about multiple owners, it makes another party have to work harder to get total control.

The glazers have played a blinder, got jr ewing in to take the flack, the reputation of the club goes through the mud again, and they keep creaming off profit.

What is the point in a wembley of the north when they'll have alienated so much of their support? Scandi air aint bussing an extra 10 k into anfield and another 20k into old trafford ii.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Is he under pressure already?

Shocking that like

When you consider 2 of those wins were the miracle of the Etihad and Fulham away were they deserved nothing from those games, they could be deep in a relegation battle

 

[Saint Domingo]

The PL will no doubt get rid of P&SR just as it starts to bite a top club.

 

[BlueInNZ]

The PL will no doubt get rid of P&SR just as it starts to bite a top club.

Imo it's a shame they didn't get hit with a similar PSR points deduction to put them right in the relegation battle.

 

[Yarrgh]

Imo it's a shame they didn't get hit with a similar PSR points deduction to put them right in the relegation battle.

Would be the story of the season.

United are like Everton on steroids. Badly run and poorly managed with a set of players who consistently don't do the business. If they got Ferguson back, they'd probably win the league - good job he's not getting that call.

How do you fix a problem like United? Get rid of everyone involved at the ownership level, sort out the stadium and facilities and get a manager that embodies the virtues (and dare I say, the follies) of Ferguson. Good luck in achieving that.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

How do you fix a problem like United?

It starts with the Glaziers getting hit by an asteroid, the club being taken over by Rock of Gibraltar and the ghost of Matt Busby rocking up on the touchline.

I hope the Glaziers bankrupt them.

 

[Yarrgh]

It starts with the Glaziers getting hit by an asteroid, the club being taken over by Rock of Gibraltar and the ghost of Matt Busby rocking up on the touchline.

I hope the Glaziers bankrupt them.

No way will they bankrupt them, that goose lays too many golden eggs for them to be that stupid.

Honestly you have to at least respect the way that they can sweat at asset that much and people still throw their hard earned dough at them. I suspect we'll only know when they've ran the place into the ground when they sell the club for one last payday and leave some other schmuck with the wreckage.

 

[FCBarça]

Moreover, their future remains bleak as it is not a club owned by the fans and the only ownership possible going forward are gulf states, investor groups or billionaires where the sporting aspect will continue to be secondary to its marketing & revenue advantage.

The American Glazers are bad but this is the sort of profile ManYoo will have to entertain as there’s zero incentive to actually win titles much less ‘care’ what the fans want

At least a renovated stadium is probably in their near future as this also helps the rich get richer

 

[NathDogg]

No way will they bankrupt them, that goose lays too many golden eggs for them to be that stupid.

Honestly you have to at least respect the way that they can sweat at asset that much and people still throw their hard earned dough at them. I suspect we'll only know when they've ran the place into the ground when they sell the club for one last payday and leave some other schmuck with the wreckage.

They’ve played a blinder with that muppet Ratcliffe and ineos - it’s all their fault now, and the glazers keep filling their pockets.

It’s incredible that United are in this position considering they, the other scabs and the PL have rigged the game for so long.

I’d love to see the lot of the scab clubs go pop, but the establishment won’t that - watch United get a brand new stadium for nothing very soon.