Loyalty

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Obviously nobody knows how true that is, but did you see the body language on the bench today, from the likes of Eto, Lukaku and McGeady?



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I dont beleive that, that Martinez isnt even speaking to anyone. Last season everyone, i mean EVERYONE, was glowing about how great he was in the club, behind the scenes, everything. I cannot imagine him throwing that all away overnight.
 

I dont beleive that, that Martinez isnt even speaking to anyone. Last season everyone, i mean EVERYONE, was glowing about how great he was in the club, behind the scenes, everything. I cannot imagine him throwing that all away overnight.

If that was true then Kenwright would have known about it and known Martinez position is untenable and got rid asap. I've no doubt there's a few spitting the dummy out behind the scenes but can't believe all of them aren't talking as like you said they were all up his arse last season. Amazing what losing games does to a squad.
 

I think it's becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people around the club and around this forum aren't maybe as blue as they paint themselves.

I think a lot of people decided that martinez wasn't for them and rather than change their opinion as he did better (and hands up, I used to hate him but I don't see how admitting you were wrong when thigns change is a weakness) have set their stall up. The worst thing in the world is to be wrong on the itnerent so if you said bobby wasn't up for it, well better hope bobby wasn't up for it.

I think a lot of our so called supporters are enjoying us being bad, relishing our bad form because it allows them to prove themselves right in their doubts.

If you didn't rate howard and distin and osman, you get to blame them for sabotaging bobby. if you didn't want martinez in, you get to blame him for upsetting our players.

This isn't everton and I dodn't think people who are so eager to see us lose so they can stick knives in (to either side) are really evertonians.

True blues get behind our team and that includes both our manager and our players.

We're in bad form and it's not acceptable but this night of the long knives, bad apple hunting, stuff is beneath us.

If you want Martinez sacked or half our squad sacked based on 4 bad games, maybe you're not supporting the right club.


Maybe you're right.

I hope you'll allow me to beg to differ. And I hope you'll allow me to suggest that it isn't up to you to categorise who is a "good" Evertonian and who isn't.
 
I dont beleive that, that Martinez isnt even speaking to anyone. Last season everyone, i mean EVERYONE, was glowing about how great he was in the club, behind the scenes, everything. I cannot imagine him throwing that all away overnight.

Its a delicate thing, a football squad. It shouldnt be, but it is. Remember when Hoddle made a remark to Beckham about not being able to do a trick or something? The senior players were astounded.

Maybe, just maybe, something like that has happened. Would be gutted if so.
 
Honestly I don't think I've seen such clueless management since Mike walker, you can't question peoples loyalty when the question needs asking.
Well my question to you is this,, how can one question when one can't question ?
 

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