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[neil999]

I didnt mind new Labour mate - Labour have been utter gash ever since.

If you wanted a credible opposition to get us away from the Tories then Labour have to move back towards the centre as Milliband & Corbyn pushed them too far to the left.

The Tories have moved further to the right in recent years but they have been able to as essentially they have hoodwinked those who believe UKIP and Farage are for the people.

I imagine a proper centre left party with backing would take both the current labour and tory parties to the cleaners.

This exactly where starmer is heading... Hopefully with less war lol

 

[Tubey]

This exactly where starmer is heading... Hopefully with less war lol

Starmer is considerably more left than Blair. Just nowhere near as mad left as Corbyn.

 

[Hickson9]

They are a neo-liberal party now.

Blairism MkII

I don't mind a bit of Blairism (invading countries aside).

Seems about right.

I got close to you. A few squares more to the left and one square more libertarian.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Starmer is considerably more left than Blair. Just nowhere near as mad left as Corbyn.

My worry with Starmer is he seems another Miliband type.

He's alot better than Corbyn but I have reservations whether he'll be the centre left leader I was hoping he would be.

You also have to worry that their are still alot of looney left from the Corbyn brigade that will be in his ear regarding the parties policies.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I got close to you. A few squares more to the left and one square more libertarian.

You sunk my battleship!

 

[Hickson9]

My worry with Starmer is he seems another Miliband type.

He's alot better than Corbyn but I have reservations whether he'll be the centre left leader I was hoping he would be.

You also have to worry that their are still alot of looney left from the Corbyn brigade that will be in his ear regarding the parties policies.

To be fair, if we had voted for Ed 5 years ago we would be in a much better state.

 

[dead_soft]

Both.

However parties can set their policies to appeal to a voter base - Labour since the days of Corbyn and to an extent Miliband have danced to the tune of their middle class left politician's and think tanks hence why they have basically handed Tories power for the last 10 years.

Im not deluded enough to think a switch to the centre would suddenly shake off the left tinted specs alot in the Labour party have but providing their policies appeal to the centre ground then thats as best as you can hope for.

You'll never get a proper labour party until someone like Dave the Plumber has any real say - what do former lawyers, academics etc. Know about the working class?

I’m sorry, but that really isn’t the history of the last two decades of the Labour Party.

What is it about New Labour that makes you think they went after working class support over middle class support?

What is it that makes you think Labour MPs haven’t been made up of lawyers, doctors, etc for the last while? It was Blair who reduced the unions’ power!

If parties set their policies only to appeal to a user base, that’s literally the whole definition of populism!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Starmer is considerably more left than Blair. Just nowhere near as mad left as Corbyn.

Corbyn and E Milliband had to happen to readdress the imbalance within Labour. Its now up to Starmer to galvanise the factions.
And he promises similar manifesto of Milliband and first election Corbyn. Which would do very nicely!

 

[The binman chronicles]

Roughly where I expected it to be tbh.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Corbyn and E Milliband had to happen to readdress the imbalance within Labour. Its now up to Starmer to galvanise the factions.
And he promises similar manifesto of Milliband and first election Corbyn. Which would do very nicely!

The same manifesto's ultimately dismissed by the majority?

Great another decade of Tory cuts it is.

 

[davek]

I don't mind a bit of Blairism (invading countries aside).



I got close to you. A few squares more to the left and one square more libertarian.

Yeah, the creation of an unequal society. Why do we need Blairism when Johnson is doing a great job of that?

Starmer is in a finance capital headlock. He's prostrated himsef before them in the hope they'll allow the Establishment to see him as fit and proper for power...and they'll demand what they did off Blair MkI: complete fealty. A return (at best) to some 'trickle down' bollocks.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

To be fair, if we had voted for Ed 5 years ago we would be in a much better state.

Ed Miliband was even worse than Corbyn mate and thats saying something.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Ghand Old Team

 

[Barnfred 55]

I got Ghandi but near right on the line directly above , just under , dont know what that makes me??

A lefty liberal mate. Ha ha

I'm' the same as Ghandi too but closer to the middle both vertically and horizontally

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Roughly where I expected it to be tbh.

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Mines just 1 square above yours mate - great minds think alike eh