Current Affairs London Protests

[Shevin Keedy]

Just ban them if people try to gather just stop them gathering.
Nothing fascists about upholding law and order and defusing a situation that is growing to be out of order.

Stopping people gathering in public places, and thereby stopping free speech, in the name of law and order, is very much fascism.

 

[anxiouswarrior]

the defenders of the imperialst capitalist establishment had their street crew on show today in London , not a pretty sight , these clowns are the tories friends that should warn us all especially the so called red wall that voted for these balloons

 

[catcherintherye]

It's why I had little support for the BLM rallies. If they had campaigned for an independent group to investigate racism in the police force or for increased local funding to the hardest hit communities to give black youngsters the best start in life I would have happily put my name to any petition to do so. By targeting things like statues, digging into the past and using it to show how things are still wrong because of these then sorry, no. It won't change anything and instead of trying to bridge a divide it widens it and we end up with scenes like today, it was always going to happen. I guess people on both sides tomorrow with black eyes and sore heads aren't going to think better of the opposite side than they did previously, that then permeates through their family, friends and we have just turned the clock back 10/15/20 years. Useless.

I know it's a bit of a mute point, but BLM matters did not target statues. Some people who went along did, against the advise of BLM.

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

I disagree to be honest (depending on what sides you mean)

Always happy to see some racists get a beating for example. I mean why not?

Well when does it end then? An EDL member who's a tit gets singled out and batterd LOL, same group see the video and batter a family having a picnic in the park, there's no moral high ground here, there both rats

 

[The binman chronicles]

I am at the point of just thinking let the world burn.

It needs to.

Nature has been trying its best over the last few years to bin us off and if we can't rely on acts of god(s) then we can always fall back on Chinese wet markets.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I know it's a bit of a mute point, but BLM matters did not target statues. Some people who went along did, against the advise of BLM.

Yes I know it wasn't a main aim or anything but that is what it turned into (be it with the help of the media or outside evil forces looking to do harm).

 

[Shevin Keedy]

the defenders of the imperialst capitalist establishment had their street crew on show today in London , not a pretty sight , these clowns are the tories friends that should warn us all especially the so called red wall that voted for these balloons

They gathered together for a singalong and had proven by mid-afternoon they had neither the stomach (figuratively I mean, there were lots of fatties) nor stamina for anything more than a couple of cans and a march round London on a sunny day. They are no threat to society.

Did you see the hard man windmilling his fists against a very small female bobby? That is your imperialist defender.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

He sent me a PM to say I'm wrong and i need to have a tug.

Need a hand?

 

[dead_soft]

It's why I had little support for the BLM rallies. If they had campaigned for an independent group to investigate racism in the police force or for increased local funding to the hardest hit communities to give black youngsters the best start in life I would have happily put my name to any petition to do so. By targeting things like statues, digging into the past and using it to show how things are still wrong because of these then sorry, no. It won't change anything and instead of trying to bridge a divide it widens it and we end up with scenes like today, it was always going to happen. I guess people on both sides tomorrow with black eyes and sore heads aren't going to think better of the opposite side than they did previously, that then permeates through their family, friends and we have just turned the clock back 10/15/20 years. Useless.

I have to be honest mate, of some statues being defaced suddenly makes them hate black people, I don’t think it was so sudden.

People who say they have little support for BLM despite most of the protests being peaceful and not about statues seems mental.

 

[COYBL25]

Stopping people gathering in public places, and thereby stopping free speech, in the name of law and order, is very much fascism.

It’s not.

Section 13 of the Public Order Act can be used to ban marches / gatherings if there is a belief that there would be serious public disorder if the march/gathering went ahead.

 

[edge]

Stopping people gathering in public places, and thereby stopping free speech, in the name of law and order, is very much fascism.

So if the KKK wanted to walk through Toxtheth you would uphold there right to do so.
Both sides are showing intolerance to any view point not that doesn't fit in with there own
They are the fascist or communist if you like because neither really believe in free speech unless it suits there argument , far left and far right to cheeks of the same arse.
People the vast majority in this country shouldn't have to put up with them and just let them do as they please.
If wanting a peaceful life makes me a fascist so be it.

 

[anxiouswarrior]

this though surely is the trump/bannon /bullingdon/farage axis that represents the new populists and seeks to adore nationalism and believes that is answers to the workers problems , if you look at who props up these frauds then we might learn a few things

 

[Shevin Keedy]

It’s not.

Section 13 of the Public Order Act can be used to ban marches / gatherings if there is a belief that there would be serious public disorder if the march/gathering went ahead.

Because it is there in law what makes you think it is not fascist ideology?

 

[Blues Harp]

Just ban them if people try to gather just stop them gathering.
Nothing fascists about upholding law and order and defusing a situation that is growing to be out of order.
It's not a police state to keep order in some situations.
Cant just let people run amok , what about the majority who just want to go along with there lives ,without interference from a either side.
They do just that every week at the footy every week ,its nothing new or out of the ordinary.

So, how would you implement your "ban"? All gatherings? Church services? Concerts? Shoot the b'stards? BTW I would be ok with far right facists marching through Toxteth....how far do you think they would get?

 

[Shevin Keedy]

So if the KKK wanted to walk through Toxtheth you would uphold there right to do so.

A strawman argument, you can do better, come on.

When the KKK want to march through Toxteth we can discuss it. But right now, as far as I know, they do not. You may know different.