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[Kurt.]

you think the fact he converted to christianity is somehow significant? You can't be that stupid, surely.

This blanket blaming is easy isn’t it

 

[Kev50]

But that appears to be what you are suggesting. You have taken a standpoint of staring that reform is needed, which is essentially imposing a position on a religion.

Personally, I think you don't actually understand the arguments, not least have read them properly, but use them to justify your own bigotry.

Poor show matey

I couldn't care less what you think.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I couldn't care less what you think.

Theny why respond?

Thi k I've caught you here. I see you Kev50, I see you.

 

[Kev50]

This blanket blaming is easy isn’t it

I'm not blaming anyone. I am pointing out that the lack of reform of one of the major religions is posing huge problems for we in the west.

 

[joey_macmo]

@Adam-GOTTV the fact he changed his name to sound "less muslim" in order to improve his chances of asylum speak for itself. Also why would a Christian plan to attack a cathedral - unless he's now involved in some Celtic/Rangers style bigotry lol

A coward who turned his back on his own name/roots/faith to slip over here and try kill innocent women and children.

Lowest of the low that.

It’s been confirmed that the original destination was the hospital and the cathedral stuff was just part of the rumour mill Sunday.

 

[Kev50]

Theny why respond?

Thi k I've caught you here. I see you Kev50, I see you.

you see me, right.

 

[Kurt.]

I'm not blaming anyone. I am pointing out that the lack of reform of one of the major religions is posing huge problems for we in the west.

Yet you deflect when people point facts out to you and don’t want to debate as your closed mind is already made up… we see you Kev… we see you

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

you see me, right.

Oh yes. The intellectual imposteur. Badly citing mysteriously not outlined academic arguments to come across as measured and sophisticated.

I see you Kev50, I see you.

 

[DanB90]

anecdotal evidence that there are fine Muslims everywhere does not change the fact that all societies following islamic precepts have, to our western eyes, deep seated problems. That is undeniable, surely.

You keep saying all you want is a discussion about it. Something which has been happening for the past 30 or so pages, with people refuting the things you have to say left, right and centre.

It appears what you actually want, is others to subscribe to your twisted viewpoint.

 

[Kev50]

You keep saying all you want is a discussion about it. Something which has been happening for the past 30 or so pages, with people refuting the things you have to say left, right and centre.

It appears what you actually want, is others to subscribe to your twisted viewpoint.

what is it that I have said which is twisted?

 

[DanB90]

what is it that I have said which is twisted?

The generalisation of a whole entire religion of people, based on the actions of a select minority, mostly.

 

[Tubey]

It’s been confirmed that the original destination was the hospital and the cathedral stuff was just part of the rumour mill Sunday.

One of those situations where, whilst I don't believe in the death penalty for many reasons, if he'd had survived this bombing attempt after targeting doctors, women and babies, I'd have not said a bad word about him being publicly hung.

The lowest of the low.

 

[Kev50]

Oh yes. The intellectual imposteur. Badly citing mysteriously not outlined academic arguments to come across as measured and sophisticated.

I see you Kev50, I see you.

if your position is that the call for Islam to reform is one made up by me to justify some hatred of a group, I think this just shows your own lack of understanding. There is a crisis within islam, read about it, rather than closing down debate and accusing people of racism.

 

[lancs blue]

I've referred this thread to specsavers. Alot of people with eye sight problems

 

[trueblue84]

I can tell you that I personally have a Muslim friend, who has graduated from university. Is engaged to and set to marry a white Christian male, with the blessing of her family and wider community. All whilst still practicing her religion.

But you probably don’t want to hear about it anyway.

It's all an elaborate ruse I tells ya...

You see, according to those in the know on this thread, they are so committed to their terrorist views that they convert to other religions, get married to people of other religions, have kids, sometimes drink alcohol, pay their taxes, be good neighbours and assimilate into "western scoiety"; but they are just playing the long game (in some cases, really long game as they do that for their whole life) and can attack at any moment. The only way to stop these terrorists is to read the daily mail and tell everyone in earshot that your freedoms are being erroded.