Liverpool v Everton. 27th Sep at 12.45.

Who will win the derby

  • Not Everton

    Votes: 143 38.9%

  • Everton

    Votes: 146 39.7%

  • No one

    Votes: 79 21.5%
  • Total voters
    368
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Buckers said:
Just had a dream we won 2-0. The pivotal moment being when a dubious refreeing decision involving grobelaar and a female ref gave us a Leighton Baines penalty at the end of the game. I was on the pitch and convinced the ref that it was a penalty. I told her I'd do it with her if she gave the pen and she did. It was amazing

It would have had everything if I hadn't woken up before the romance.
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Have you been at the Camembert before bedtime again?
 
If we win I'll be happy, if we lose I'll be sad, if we draw I'll be indifferent unless it's a come from behind in the last moments, in which case I'll be happy.
 
hullefc said:
Roberto Martínez: Everton will not change game plan at Liverpool
• Manager under scrutiny before Merseyside derby
• Martínez insists Everton will not play for draw
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Roberto Martínez’s Everton have conceded the most goals in the Premier League but he says they will not change their style of play. Photograph: Kieran McManus/Bpi/Rex
Roberto Martínez has issued a defiant defence of his managerial principles and insisted he would never compromise attacking beliefs for short-term results that will not, he insists, bring success to Everton.

The Everton manager, who is under severe scrutiny ahead of Saturday’s before today’s Merseyside derby at Anfield, a ground where the club has not won for exactly 15 years, following a poor start to the season characterised by bad defending. No Premier League team has shipped more goals than Everton’s 13 so far and Tuesday’s limp Capital One Cup exit at Swansea City raised the total conceded to 17 in seven matches.

Both Everton and Liverpool’s defences have invited criticism this campaign and, having lost more Premier League games than they have won, can ill-afford to lose further ground in the 223rd meeting between the local rivals. Martínez has described last season’s 4-0 defeat at Anfield as one of the most painful results of his career but, asked if his priority was to avoid defeat on Saturday, he replied: “No, we’ll never change our focus, we always want to win. If you can’t win, draw, fine, but we will never set out a team to try to draw a game or just hope for a win.

“We can’t accept that. It doesn’t go with the way we want to be as a football team. I don’t think it goes with the way the football club was in the 60s and the 80s and I don’t think that’s in my DNA. I will never compromise on that.”





Martínez accepts that defending is harder with his approach, albeit from a team perspective rather than for individuals, but insists a focus on keeping clean sheets will not help Everton win silverware in the long-term.

The Everton manager, whose team are the second highest goalscorers in the Premier League, said: “It is more difficult, absolutely, I’m not going to hide anything. But I don’t get any extra enjoyment if we keep a clean sheet if that’s not going to win us a game.

“I’ve always believed that you build football teams to achieve things in the long term, that you create a philosophy that is strong enough to win you things rather than just go game-by-game and going under the radar because they are defeats that everyone accepts. I feel as hurt losing 1-0 as losing 6-0 but if you lose 6-3 trying and having a positive from the performance that you to can take into the next game, I’ll accept that.

“I know there are managers who are from a school of wanting to win through keeping a clean sheet and having a team that’s difficult to beat with their main goalscoring threat coming from set pieces. I say this with respect, but I’m from a philosophy of always wanting to win through scoring goals.

If that’s going to leave you open then you need to score more goals than the opposition, that’s the top and bottom of it. That’s the only way you can be good enough to win titles and achieve more than people would expect from your team.”

Everton: the people’s club
The Everton manager disputes, however, that his philosophy increases pressure on individual defenders, with the established core of Tim Howard, Phil Jagielka and Sylvain Distin all struggling this season. He explained: “It’s a different way of defending. Obviously if you have 70-75% possession you’re going to be defending a lot less but equally the concentration levels will have to be higher.”

Liverpool have been undermined by individual defensive errors themselves but, contrary to Martínez, Brendan Rodgers does not believe his emphasis on attacking football makes life tougher for his defenders. The Liverpool manager said: “I don’t think so. I think it is probably an easy assumption to make when coaches set up to play an attacking game.

“The players will tell you that, the way we set up, it is about having the balance. We look to impose our style on the game but you always have to respect your opponent. Tactically we showed that last year. There were a number of times when we set-up with a three-quarter pitch press to invite the opponent to open up and then played on the counter-attack to exploit the spaces. In other games we pressed to the win the ball high and when we felt the game was in control we controlled the game without the ball by sitting in and defending. We need to show more consistency in our defending but we looked really solid against Tottenham, scored three and could have had more. For me it is about the consistency and I certainly won’t change the aggression in our game.”
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We're doomed.

Although I don't believe he's meaning what you would guess. After the Anfield Derby we setup to play a number of teams on the counter and almost always won, and normally easily.

The RS are at home. Force them to open up to attack us.

However at least we get to sing the Gerrard song :-)
 
Loved that @chicoazul, you really have it in for them replica wearing bells though, Il be one today in a pub in dublin no doubt massively outnumbered by them in my 'Parkinson 18' top, we actually won there in that thanks to the aforementioned Kanchelskis.

Then its off to croke park for the all Ireland final, come on Everton let me enter that stadium with a smile.

COYB
 
Bit worried today.

Today really does depend on what defense turns up for us if we keep gifting goals then we are buggered.

In reality we have given teams goals (mistakes or being to pretty) rather than teams "earning" it or breaking us down, if we pack this in we'll be fine.
 
TippEverton said:
Loved that @chicoazul, you really have it in for them replica wearing bells though, Il be one today in a pub in dublin no doubt massively outnumbered by them in my 'Parkinson 18' top, we actually won there in that thanks to the aforementioned Kanchelskis.

Then its off to croke park for the all Ireland final, come on Everton let me enter that stadium with a smile.

COYB
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What pub are you watching it in chum? They'll be in the Woolshed in force wondering why Benitez didn't start David Sturridge.
 
Adversus said:
We're doomed.

Although I don't believe he's meaning what you would guess. After the Anfield Derby we setup to play a number of teams on the counter and almost always won, and normally easily.

The RS are at home. Force them to open up to attack us.

However at least we get to sing the Gerrard song :)
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ah well aslong as we can sing about other players teams thats all that matters then. Take another 4-0 just so we can taunt Gerrard for not winning the lesgue
 
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