Liverpool 1-0 Everton. Saturday 6th February @ 12.45.

[chicoazul]

Yes I want him gone back then but I'm glad he's still with us but that does not mean we can't discuss his flaw now. Learn to accept constructive criticism mate.

You wanted Moyes out?

Case closed pal.

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[kenada_blue]

Why won't you admit that we are trying to say that Moyes needs to take some of the blame as opposed to your view of just blaming the players.

Instead you just keep saying its kneejerk, thats its Moyes bashing when its just trying to say we think Moyes was just as much to blame for our performance and the mannor of it as the players.

And why do you keep ignoring the times i've raised the question as to whether Moyes tactics or lack of have anything to do with why we haven't won away at a top 4 side under his reign.

And therefor are his tactics linked into todays poor showing?

Its asking questions and discussing points of view.

Or have we all just pulled your pants down and gave you a good bumming

This.

You only learn from your mistakes. If Moyes puts his hands up and goes "this is where I went wrong" he'll learn from it and move on. Its called experience.

Its not a "MOYES OUT" brigade. Its just a - this game, and others in the past, have been there for the taking...we either havent for some reason (injuries, money etc) or just plainly havent got a reason for - which is today.

Apart from getting a peno for just turning up, there was little that could have gone our way in that game and we didnt take it. Happened before...see the FA Cup final.

 

[chicoazul]

Have you actually made any points today mate or just shot everyone else down?

Just wondering.

Or are you yawning cos you've been up for hours.

I'm doing well when all you hit back with are insults mate.

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[GhostOfDixie]

I'm doing well when all you hit back with are insults mate.

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Where are these insults you speak of?

 

[Axlswhk]

You wanted Moyes out?

Case closed pal.

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It was back then for **** sake read what I post.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

You wanted Moyes out?

Case closed pal.

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For the record, I don't want Moyes out - just wanted him to pistol whip FSW with his windmill action.

 

[Axlswhk]

For the record, I don't want Moyes out - just wanted him to pistol whip FSW with his windmill action.

He won't understand mate. His defination of criticism is "Moyes out".
He use it to side step every question that was directed at him.

 

[chicoazul]

Why won't you admit that we are trying to say that Moyes needs to take some of the blame as opposed to your view of just blaming the players.

Instead you just keep saying its kneejerk, thats its Moyes bashing when its just trying to say we think Moyes was just as much to blame for our performance and the mannor of it as the players.

And why do you keep ignoring the times i've raised the question as to whether Moyes tactics or lack of have anything to do with why we haven't won away at a top 4 side under his reign.

And therefor are his tactics linked into todays poor showing?

Its asking questions and discussing points of view.

Or have we all just pulled your pants down and gave you a good bumming

Read back mate, I've said Moyes takes some of the blame by being Manager but the players take more blame.



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[faddy the blue]

Postedj via Mobile Device I don't think our approach was good when the [Poor language removed] went to 10 men. We kept things the way they were hoping everything would go right. We came out for the 2nd half with more or less the same tactics where as I would have brought on the Yak straightaway for Osman. That would have put them on the back foot. It was a [Poor language removed] goal to concead, howard should have done better. Now why is Osman in the side? Yeah he scored a good one against birmingham but we need Billy now as he has more big a size than Osman and a good passer. Hopefully Felli will return soon enough and until then when Rodders returns he should be in Felli's role and now next week Billy for Pienaar.

 

[kenada_blue]

Read back mate, I've said Moyes takes some of the blame by being Manager but the players take more blame.



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The players should take more blame, and they do. Moyes never seems to rectify things though.

Cahill has been pretty poor all season but will NEVER take him off or bench him unless he's got a broken leg for eg.

 

[chicoazul]

He won't understand mate. His defination of criticism is "Moyes out".
He use it to side step every question that was directed at him.

You wanted Moyes out mate, all I'm saying is that Newcastle is more your club.


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[GhostOfDixie]

Read back mate, I've said Moyes takes some of the blame by being Manager but the players take more blame.



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The players didn't perform that is right. But Moyes could have seen that and changed it and he never - his job isn't a desk job, he's a coach - he makes decisions to get the best out of the players.

His comments last year where he said once they cross the line it's their responsibility was incredible.

You watch Wenger and Fergie will change things, Benitez does that tic tac toe [Poor language removed] to move players up and down and change the mentality of any tactic.

Moyes does none of that, and he should do. He gets paid enough to do it.

 

[TheDevils2001]

Well, it was partly Moyes fault for not bringing a second striker on after half time, and Neville was bloody awful and Coleman should have come on for him or Coleman should have come on for Fellaini and move Neville to DM.​

Moyes is a good manager and has the potential to become one of the best, and it's about time he grow up, experience isn't everything. Neville is a great example, he has tonnes of experience but the problem is he has past his peak and his body no longer could do with what once he was capable of and it's time the Moyes make Neville into a back-up for RB and DM.​

Secondly, another things Moyes must learn, Skipper shouldn't mean you gurantee a starting place, learn from Man Utd manager, Gary Neville is the Skipper of Man Utd but he is no longer gurantee a starting place, because he is no longer the best in that position and is now a back-up, same should goes with our Neville.​

Thirdly, when a player had a awful game and still get to play the next one, when there are someone in the wing ready to step in, it isn't right! If a player played badly then they got to be dropped in the next game to let them know you can't play badly and expect to still start the next one, especially when we have someone who could step in!​

Finally, when you already have a young talented RB in the form of Coleman and is not right you keep using experience as an excuse of not playing Coleman, you keep saying he is lacking experience, if you don't play him how do he gain those experience? You didn't take the option of loaning Coleman out in January, then you must take responsibility to give him some playing time for experience.​

I would be really disappointed with the manager if Coleman does not start against Chelsea, is about time he drop Neville after him having a awful game against the RS.​

 

[Axlswhk]

You wanted Moyes out mate, all I'm saying is that Newcastle is more your club.


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Who the **** are you to tell me which club I should support. You're can do better than twisting my words to suit your petty needs.

 

[faddy the blue]

Well, it was partly Moyes fault for not bringing a second striker on after half time, and Neville was bloody awful and Coleman should have come on for him or Coleman should have come on for Fellaini and move Neville to DM.​

Moyes is a good manager and has the potential to become one of the best, and it's about time he grow up, experience isn't everything. Neville is a great example, he has tonnes of experience but the problem is he has past his peak and his body no longer could do with what once he was capable of and it's time the Moyes make Neville into a back-up for RB and DM.​

Secondly, another things Moyes must learn, Skipper shouldn't mean you gurantee a starting place, learn from Man Utd manager, Gary Neville is the Skipper of Man Utd but he is no longer gurantee a starting place, because he is no longer the best in that position and is now a back-up, same should goes with our Neville.​

Thirdly, when a player had a awful game and still get to play the next one, when there are someone in the wing ready to step in, it isn't right! If a player played badly then they got to be dropped in the next game to let them know you can't play badly and expect to still start the next one, especially when we have someone who could step in!​

Finally, when you already have a young talented RB in the form of Coleman and is not right you keep using experience as an excuse of not playing Coleman, you keep saying he is lacking experience, if you don't play him how do he gain those experience? You didn't take the option of loaning Coleman out in January, then you must take responsibility to give him some playing time for experience.​

I would be really disappointed with the manager if Coleman does not start against Chelsea, is about time he drop Neville after him having a awful game against the RS.​

Posted via Mobile Device Good post mate. Let's go with a proper 4 4 2 on wednesday with Cahill dropped(which won't happen) and Billy for Pienaar now. Neville at DM with Arteta. Coleman at rb