Liverpool 1-0 Everton. Saturday 6th February @ 12.45.

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i think our team played with a little too much passion ....i know it sounds a little bit out there but we concentrated more on going in hard thean we did of gettin the ball down and playin .......

an even harder pill to swallow because of our form going into this game
 
gettin beat pisses me off gettin beat by the RS annoys me ..................losing in that pathethic fashion im nearly doing a michael douglas in falling down.....

DM got a deserved award for this months achievements i was actually gettin cocky going into this game i thought a pt at worse ..... pienaar my fAV player this season what the **** was he thinking for that 2nd yellow NICE ONE U NOW MISS THE CHE MATCH

bringin ON A sub can go either way but why didnt coLEMAN get his chance not very exp yet but his enthuasim would ahve pushed the RS back and had them thinkin rather than the ease at which they won......anchiebe on over billy

a genuine chance goes a begging and i feel the whole EVE team set up let us all down today

Nothing challenge and the reff was waiting to send one of our players off after the grief he got for sending one of theirs off.

It shouldn't happen but it did and was predicted at half time after the sending off. Just see it as a ref who's already given a peno to a team no giving them a 2nd blatant peno... they can say they're impartial but they're not. Someone had a word with the ref and half time and its no wonder that the majority of fouls went to them after the sending off.

As for Anichebe....What happened to Vaughan?

I like Vic but he's nowhere near fit to play.
 
Were talking about today aren't we?

Today he picked a team that should have beat Liverpool and subbed well. I've said over and over that you should be looking at Saha, Pienaar, Neville and others for what went wrong rather than Moyes.

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But he took Saha off for Anichebe who's played all of 15 minutes all season? What happened to Vaughan? We didnt create much so he puts 2 strikers on rather than a playmaker?

Moyes has to take blame for not getting something out of it. 2 shots on goal?!!! Christ!
 
If i'd have been present when this game was underway I may well have been banned by now it was that frustrating.

Crap game, Crap performance, Crap afternoon, and beaten by Crap is one way is how I would describe it.

They said at first it was Gerrard who scored, but it was later Kuynt who did the damage from a corner.

One week we look the real deal, and next it's the same sorry tale, it's one thing losing a game but to lose it to this opposition and the way it went down today is something else.

I don't know all the details, don't know all player ratings, but what I can say is I was very frustrated and angry by end of game.

I'm sober now, but may just have a cold one later on this night, but not too many mind, red [Poor language removed] or not, life must go on.

Will force myself to watch it on Channel 1 later tonight, but I don't envisage it will make pleasant viewing.

any more news on Fellaini tonight, I haven't seen the challenge.
 
Were talking about today aren't we?

Today he picked a team that should have beat Liverpool and subbed well. I've said over and over that you should be looking at Saha, Pienaar, Neville and others for what went wrong rather than Moyes.

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He never subbed well mate. Can you not see that?

If those lads had turned the game on its head and we ended up winning it, then fair enough - but they made no difference at all. 1 weak effort and a waste of a good opportunity doesn't consititute a successful performance.
 
But he took Saha off for Anichebe who's played all of 15 minutes all season? What happened to Vaughan? We didnt create much so he puts 2 strikers on rather than a playmaker?

Moyes has to take blame for not getting something out of it. 2 shots on goal?!!! Christ!

This. This is ******* right. It's not knee jerk, it's an observation of the game.

What has happened to Vaughan? I would have rather have seen him there as he wins headers in the air and lets be honest we were dominated in that area today.
 
But he took Saha off for Anichebe who's played all of 15 minutes all season? What happened to Vaughan? We didnt create much so he puts 2 strikers on rather than a playmaker?

Moyes has to take blame for not getting something out of it. 2 shots on goal?!!! Christ!

Vaughan wasn't on the bench was he?

Playmakers? Who was on the bench then to bring on?

Burn an effigy of him if you like mate but perhaps look at one or two of our best players who failed to deliver against ten men.



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This. This is ******* right. It's not knee jerk, it's an observation of the game.

What has happened to Vaughan? I would have rather have seen him there as he wins headers in the air and lets be honest we were dominated in that area today.

I like Vic....he showed what he can do by the end of that game when he used his muscle to turn in.....but its the worst opportunity to give a player who has played less than 20 minutes all season. He's not the cleverest of players and should've passed it. But if he was on his game and sharp, he could've smashed it.

But away from that...you had Cahill, Saha, Yak, Ossie, Arteta, Pienaar, Donovan...all players who could've got on the end of SOMETHING...

The fact our crossing was (and has been for the majority of the season) poor, we didnt create anything through the middle...we lacked creativity not someone who can score. You create something for any of the players mentioned above, you get a goal.

2 shots on target. I dont like saying it but that's a fact.
 
Relax princess.

I've repeatedly pointed out where your post match blame game falls apart.

You wanted him gone in 2005 too didn't you?

Kick the cat or something fella.

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Yes I want him gone back then but I'm glad he's still with us but that does not mean we can't discuss his flaw now. Learn to accept constructive criticism mate.
 
Vaughan wasn't on the bench was he?

Playmakers? Who was on the bench then to bring on?

Burn an effigy of him if you like mate but perhaps look at one or two of our best players who failed to deliver against ten men.



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No, he wasnt on the bench which is the point. GOT has said he thinks Moyes rates Anichebe over Vaughan and it shows being that he'll put Anichebe who's played all of 15 minutes (not even that) over him on the bench.

As for playmakers he spent 9mill on Billy to be a playmaker and never used him.

Its more of a case of Moyes has LOTS of options. He's basically got a full strength squad minus Jags and couldnt get a result against a 10 man RS.

All he could so was a simple "go 4-4-2" but take off our 1st choice striker for a player who hasnt played all season, and push our attacking midfielder further back.

Christ we could've took Distin off for Billy and played 3 at the back it was that much of a dominance of possession in the game.
 
No, he wasnt on the bench which is the point. GOT has said he thinks Moyes rates Anichebe over Vaughan and it shows being that he'll put Anichebe who's played all of 15 minutes (not even that) over him on the bench.

As for playmakers he spent 9mill on Billy to be a playmaker and never used him.

Its more of a case of Moyes has LOTS of options. He's basically got a full strength squad minus Jags and couldnt get a result against a 10 man RS.

All he could so was a simple "go 4-4-2" but take off our 1st choice striker for a player who hasnt played all season, and push our attacking midfielder further back.

Christ we could've took Distin off for Billy and played 3 at the back it was that much of a dominance of possession in the game.

Well this my friend is thinking out of the box - and Evertonians, clearly are not happy outside of their comfort zone.
 
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See above.

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Why won't you admit that we are trying to say that Moyes needs to take some of the blame as opposed to your view of just blaming the players.

Instead you just keep saying its kneejerk, thats its Moyes bashing when its just trying to say we think Moyes was just as much to blame for our performance and the mannor of it as the players.

And why do you keep ignoring the times i've raised the question as to whether Moyes tactics or lack of have anything to do with why we haven't won away at a top 4 side under his reign.

And therefor are his tactics linked into todays poor showing?

Its asking questions and discussing points of view.

Or have we all just pulled your pants down and gave you a good bumming :D
 
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