Current Affairs King Charles III

[Goat]

If it was indeed racism. We only have one side of the story so far. Unfortunately the more that transpires and becomes public the murkier the picture will become…..

Actually Pete we have both sides of the story.

Heres the other.

Witnesses of the conversation, such as Mandu Reid, corroborated this account of events.

Buckingham Palace said that "unacceptable and deeply regrettable comments" had been made, and that "the individual concerned would like to express her profound apologies for the hurt caused and has stepped aside".

Commenting on the incident, a spokesperson for Prince William, her godson, said that "racism has no place in our society".

Both sides.

 

[peteblue]

Actually Pete we have both sides of the story.

Heres the other.

Witnesses of the conversation, such as Mandu Reid, corroborated this account of events.

Buckingham Palace said that "unacceptable and deeply regrettable comments" had been made, and that "the individual concerned would like to express her profound apologies for the hurt caused and has stepped aside".

Commenting on the incident, a spokesperson for Prince William, her godson, said that "racism has no place in our society".

Both sides.

Fair enough, the old dear has been thrown under the bus and is toast.…..

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

@Spadge Vernacular i get why Ms Fulani would make hay with this. Rightly so.

Call Racism out there and then.

Context.

We shall see what comes from this but at this point Melanie looks a bit ike a grifter.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I know what it is mate - racist clap trap used to political point score.

There is nothing a white person can do or achieve in the UK that a black/asian/indian/alien are unable to do.

You've been had, wake up to whats happening - metropolitan elite distracting you with this race rubbish whilst they rob us all blind.

You understand the words 'white privilege' as much as you understand the words 'woke', 'spiritual' and 'football'.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I've got to say I don't think there's anything wrong with asking about someone's family heritage. In fact I've done it many times, I think it's just being interested in getting to know someone.

Of course it would be a bit weird to ask it as soon as you meet the person, usually the conversation develops organically.

However if I met a person with an African name, in African traditional dress I would probably assume they were African and ask based on that. If I make an honest mistake and they tell me they are British then I'd apologise for my mistake and ask about their family heritage because I want to get to know them.

 

[Amw79]

I've got to say I don't think there's anything wrong with asking about someone's family heritage. In fact I've done it many times, I think it's just being interested in getting to know someone.

Of course it would be a bit weird to ask it as soon as you meet the person, usually the conversation develops organically.

However if I met a person with an African name, in African traditional dress I would probably assume they were African and ask based on that. If I make an honest mistake and they tell me they are British then I'd apologise for my mistake and ask about their family heritage because I want to get to know them.

Think the problem was the initial question was “where are you from”.

The response was (something like)
“Hackney” (or some other obviously British place).

“No, where are you really from”

Which can be a bit problematic, if you’re a British born, British Citizen.

My understanding of events may be wrong, but I think the problem was the implicit assumption contained in the follow up.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

She should have responded by asking ‘where did your unearned wealth come from? No, no, where did it really come from?’

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Think the problem was the initial question was “where are you from”.

The response was (something like)
“Hackney” (or some other obviously British place).

“No, where are you really from”

Which can be a bit problematic, if you’re a British born, British Citizen.

My understanding of events may be wrong, but I think the problem was the implicit assumption contained in the follow up.

Yes I agree and if those were the words used then it is poor phrasing.

However with the given evidence it is possibly more plausible that it an issue with poor communication skills rather than racially motivated questioning.

Of course there's always lessons to learn, her losing her job was a poor response in my opinion and a panicked reaction to what could be seen as more race related scandal involving the Royal Family.

It could be said that potentially it was the right move politically however as far as has been reported there is no history of racist behaviour with this employee. If action were to be taken it should have taken the form of education and training rather than punishment.

This appears to be an issue related to lack of understanding and poor communication as far as I can see. This ex-palace employee will now have a supposedly racist incident attached to them for life when a simple conversation could have cleared it up.

I'm also deeply suspicious of someone who was offended by something in a private conversation who then takes it straight to the press.

In the public's interest? Possibly. Although making worldwide headlines and an incident of an elderly woman mispeaking in conversation hardly fits that description.

And it's certainly not in the best interests of the country to attempt to paint the Royal Family as racist.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Yes I agree and if those were the words used then it is poor phrasing.

However with the given evidence it is possibly more plausible that it an issue with poor communication skills rather than racially motivated questioning.

Of course there's always lessons to learn, her losing her job was a poor response in my opinion and a panicked reaction to what could be seen as more race related scandal involving the Royal Family.

It could be said that potentially it was the right move politically however as far as has been reported there is no history of racist behaviour with this employee. If action were to be taken it should have taken the form of education and training rather than punishment.

This appears to be an issue related to lack of understanding and poor communication as far as I can see. This ex-palace employee will now have a supposedly racist incident attached to them for life when a simple conversation could have cleared it up.

I'm also deeply suspicious of someone who was offended by something in a private conversation who then takes it straight to the press.

In the public's interest? Possibly. Although making worldwide headlines and an incident of an elderly woman mispeaking in conversation hardly fits that description.

And it's certainly not in the best interests of the country to attempt to paint the Royal Family as racist.

If the comments about Harry and Meghan’s baby’s skin tone are accurate then the Royal Family don’t need anyone’s help to paint them as racist.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

If the comments about Harry and Meghan’s baby’s skin tone are accurate then the Royal Family don’t need anyone’s help to paint them as racist.

Second hand testimony from a professional victim with an axe to grind.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Kin weird thing to do that , to reach out and touch someone you don't know, like personal space has never been a thing just ask her name if you need to know. Then proceed to talk about the subject that brought them to the attentions of Royal household this instance domestic abuse. Still my money is on Hussey (lady of the piddling pot ) asking Meghan on colour of baby.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Fair enough, the old dear has been thrown under the bus and is toast.…..

And rightly so. The era of acceptance of a suppossed white upper class in the UK is over. They need to get used to it. Same too for their snivelling little sycophants up and down the country who delight in subservience Pete.

 

[Nightman]

Whilst I have little sympathy for the establishment - this woman is a wolf in sheeps clothing who doesn't want unity and peace - she (and the woke) wants white people walking on egg shells and self hating themselves forevermore based on what a bunch of white folk did decades/centuries ago (even though shock horror black folk also enslaved people, have massacred people and have their own racists in their ranks).

The woke have some of the most racist views around which is why the few positive things they stand for doesn't get the support it should in the mainstream.

Does your mother know what kind of podcasts your listening to?

 

[Amw79]

Yes I agree and if those were the words used then it is poor phrasing.

However with the given evidence it is possibly more plausible that it an issue with poor communication skills rather than racially motivated questioning.

Of course there's always lessons to learn, her losing her job was a poor response in my opinion and a panicked reaction to what could be seen as more race related scandal involving the Royal Family.

It could be said that potentially it was the right move politically however as far as has been reported there is no history of racist behaviour with this employee. If action were to be taken it should have taken the form of education and training rather than punishment.

This appears to be an issue related to lack of understanding and poor communication as far as I can see. This ex-palace employee will now have a supposedly racist incident attached to them for life when a simple conversation could have cleared it up.

I'm also deeply suspicious of someone who was offended by something in a private conversation who then takes it straight to the press.

In the public's interest? Possibly. Although making worldwide headlines and an incident of an elderly woman mispeaking in conversation hardly fits that description.

And it's certainly not in the best interests of the country to attempt to paint the Royal Family as racist.

Poor phrasing for sure, but the phrasing points to an underlying problem, that many people don’t see non-white people as “properly British”.

This sentiment is an insidious type of racism, which I know that people of colour experience regularly, and is one part of a suite of low level racism that happens constantly.

As I said in an earlier post, the outcome and action taken is certainly debatable. I don’t think this lady is the new Nick Fuentes, or some type of overtly racist bigot. But the Royal family have taken the decision they’ve taken.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Poor phrasing for sure, but the phrasing points to an underlying problem, that many people don’t see non-white people as “properly British”.

This sentiment is an insidious type of racism, which I know that people of colour experience regularly, and is one part of a suite of low level racism that happens constantly.

As I said in an earlier post, the outcome and action taken is certainly debatable. I don’t think this lady is the new Nick Fuentes, or some type of overtly racist bigot. But the Royal family have taken the decision they’ve taken.

I agree this is an issue however to be able to say with an adequate degree of certainty that this was the case in this instance. We can't possible ascertain whether she was questioning her 'Britishness' or just clumsily making small talk.

Making people nervous to ask people where they come from in case they're accused of racism is something that should not be happening.