He'd almost certainly be put on gardening leave if he was leaving us to go to another club but if that's not the case then he'll remain in place till his contract expires. He's probably been involved in a succession plan to leave things in place for whoever succeeds him for a good while now and there's no reason he shouldn't continue with that right up the the last day.
2024/25 Kevin Thelwell
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Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
He should be sat in his pants eating a pot noodle at home and contemplating a cheeky lunch beer whilst laughing about destroying the toilet with his patented bowl devastating bombing runs.
So a normal day really, except it's not in the office.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
You've named all the decent ones and missed out all the flops - all of which were assembled for a lot of money. And, he has always struggled with strikers.
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Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
Again . . .
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Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
Given the fact he has had nig budgets at West Ham, his record is poor. Thelwell has signed a higher percentage of decent players for us than Moyes has for West Ham, especially when consider the constraints he was working under.
A lot of the players you reference were signed between 15 and 20 years ago. The game changes.
carolinablue232
Player Valuation: £70m
Most of attacking players he signed for West Ham are the type I hope he brings in here. Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta, Benrahma. All class. No one has a 100% hit rate but Moyes knows talent more often than not.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
£30m for James Ward-Prowse should be a sackable offence in itself. Scammaca for about £35m?? Kudus and Paqueta are both good players, but I would argue that you would be hard-pressed to be in the market for £40m+ midfielders who are absolutely terrible.This is one stint, theres also the Hugill, Evra and Joao Mario signings he made in the other.
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Poor isnt the word. Shambolic?
About £60m combined for Zouma and Aguerd?! Between Brands and Thelwell, we paid about £1m for Branthwaite and Tarkowski combined, who are both better players - now, that's value for money!
About £60m combined for Vlasic, Cornet and Mavropanos?!! That should be investigated for embezzlement it's that bad!
£10m for Danny Ings, who has scored 5 goals in 68 appearances for West Ham.
£10m+ for Flynn Downes - billed as one of Moyes' gems from the Championship- and he's been terrible, and is now stinking out the gaff for one of the worst PL sides ever in Southampton.
A £7m loan fee plus covering nearly all of Kalvin Phillips' near £200k p/wk wages for a 6 month loan?!
And that's just some of them. People need to stop living in the past. Moyes is doing a good job as a manager, but since he left us, his record in the transfer market has been absolutely God-awful. And he is supposedly bringing in the clown who helped him sign all this dross.
All I can say, is that if we were bringing in a DoF with Moyes' track record for signings over the last 15 years, people would be going ballistic. But because Moyes signed Cahill for a bargain fee 20 YEARS AGO!!! and the like, everyone thinks Moyes is some kind of transfer messiah.
We need to keep him as manager and get a proven DoF now that we've decided to punt Thelwell and we need to do it soon.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
See my post in response to Zat mate. Moyes' record after us is actually really poor. I would argue that it is actually the inverse of what you said: the fact he has signed a few good player in amongst absolute expensive dross is proof that even a poor record in recruitment comes up with a few belters. Which again, is helped by the markets he was able to operate in with West Ham's budgets.
Pretty sure Kudus would have been an Everton player if we had their money.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
Yep, agree with this, West Ham have wasted a fortune on players. Moyes is a good coach as he's proving with us at the moment, but we need someone whose full time job is scouring the globe for decent bargains and bringing in young players with potential for reasonable fees and wages. Otherwise we'll be back where we were with Moshiri inside 12 months.
Aries
Player Valuation: £15m
Yeah but despite all that, at least we won’t have a Kopite in charge of transfers eh? So all good
Aries
Player Valuation: £15m
Moyes should be absolutely nowhere near recruitment. As well as he’s done (he’s exceeded all our expectations) very few actually wanted him here and he’s certainly not the long term answer as he admits himself. Where’s the long term strategy and planning if you’re allowing a 61 manager on a two and a half year deal, to be in charge of recruitment and have the capability to do what he wants? He’s fortunate to regain the job, he should be happy just coaching the team. Nobody, other than the new DOF should be in charge of recruitment with the aim of building a young, talented team for many years to come.
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
Didnt he win a trophy with those two centre backs? Its easy to cherry pick branthwaite mate but lets not forget we also wasted 30m on Michael Keane. We certainly havent won anything in his time here. The two players who scored in that european final were signed by Moyes.
Its very easy to pick apart any manager in the transfer market. You've basically dismissed his record in his first spell here as a different time. I think thats correct. A very different time. The markets very very different and its harder than ever to get value for money now. Go to a championship club and even they're quoting you 15-20m for a player who has hardly played top level football.
He was given a good budget at west ham and he never hit the mark with all of them. Clubs knew they had money and id say pushed the price up on a few of them.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
Couldn't disagree more mate.
Not cherry-picking. Looks likely Moyes and his crew will be replacing Thelwell, and I am comparing our centre-backs that have been acquired by our last two DoFs combined. Unless I've forgotten someone, Thelwell and Brands brought in Tarkowski, Branthwaite and Mina on permanents and Coady and Zouma on one season loan deals. Vs Moyes spaffing loads of money on poor CBs in the same period.
As for Keane, he was signed by a different DoF nearly a decade ago and the signings of that DoF is largely what has put us in the huge mess we've been in.
It's not harder to get bargains now, but you may have to look in different places. For example, Championship bargains don’t reqlly exist anymore. But the may in places like France and Austria, or in South America.
Moyes wasted huge sums money with his West Ham recruitment!
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
The market is in those countries now. Brighton have embarrassed lots of clubs showing that. But thats a deep infrastructure thing of how the clubs run. Id love that. Buy cheap flog for a massive profit after getting a good few seasons. The perfect model.
I disagree he wasted huge sums of money. Kudos would go for a profit now. Man city offered 50m for paqueta. Thats two deals they could get most of the money back. If they sold bowen tomorrow they could triple their outlay.
The comment about ward prowse being a sackable offence is ridiculous. At the time of signing him he had the highest assist stats in the prem and highest dead ball goals in the prem.
Again. Its easy to concentrate on the negative if thats where you are starting from.
Show me a manager that hits the bullseye with transfers everytime. They dont exist.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £30m
We come back to the point that I don’t need to show you mangers that hit the bullseye with transfers because, Moyes apart, very few managers deal with the recruitment anymore.
The Ward-Prowse comment is not ridiculous at all. Would be like if someone came in and offered us £40m for McNeil in the current situation - we'd consider that madness for a player with no pace, who contributes little to open play and gets all their goals and assists from set-pieces (and in that comparison, at least McNeil scores his goals from open play). When we signed McNeil, at least it was as a result of needing a wide player who we only needed to put less than £4m down for and who was at least young (22). Ward-Prowse was 29 when he spaffed all that money on him.
Given the fees paid (and Bowen's current age) West Ham would do well to cancel out their losses on all the others Moyes has wasted money on, on those three tbh.
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