judge us at the end of the transfer window – not now

[Bebeto]

As we all knew we were limited due to ffp concerns and so it proven to be the case. Missing on an attacking player and more importantly not using our quota for loans to overcome the financial challenges is an indication that it wasn't a good window. At the end of the day we'll know by December how good or bad the window has been.

 

[Nymzee]

The club's financials for every year are posted on the website. Decent estimates of transfer fees are available on transfermarkt. Wage estimates are available.

It is possible to back out from this information how much the club likely has available to spend.

Neither of those figures are ever right.

Garner fee on that site? £15m when it's £9m
Gana fee on that site? £5m when it's £2m.
McNeil fee? 22 actual million pounds

 

[MrGrumpy]

As we all knew we were limited due to ffp concerns and so it proven to be the case. Missing on an attacking player and more importantly not using our quota for loans to overcome the financial challenges is an indication that it wasn't a good window. At the end of the day we'll know by December how good or bad the window has been.

Don’t you think the defence and midfield are far better? Ppl are to obsessed with the attack

 

[Billy Dean]

Dominic Calvert-Lewin 15
Gordon 8-10
Gray 8-10
Maupay 8-10
McNeil 5
Townsend 5
Gardner 3
Defensive 5
Onana 3-5

Bit optimistic on some of those perhaps, but I do think it’s possible to improve on last seasons goal tally with what we have. Time will tell though.

 

[Bebeto]

Don’t you think the defence and midfield are far better? Ppl are to obsessed with the attack

Number of goals scored to date and points we have on the board suggests otherwise...but early days still

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

I don't have an agenda; do you know the truth? If not, it's conjecture. I can lob a dictionary your way if required.

Did that make you feel all better slinging some personal insults in there?

You can make reasonable estimates from last year's accounts, but no, I cannot say that what I am saying is 100% correct.

It's an educated guess; some forward-thinking analysis...

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Which is progress from spending stupid money we weren't allowed to.

Absolutely...we are making progress!

 

[Nymzee]

Did that make you feel all better slinging some personal insults in there?

You can make reasonable estimates from last year's accounts, but no, I cannot say that what I am saying is 100% correct.

It's an educated guess; some forward-thinking analysis...

So conjecture then.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Number of goals scored to date and points we have on the board suggests otherwise...but early days still

Well we conceded 66 last year 66 goals the most we EVER concede.. that will not happen again. If we score the same amount as last season 43 but concede 33 that’s a +10 which is top half finish

We also had no striker

 

[Nymzee]

Well we conceded 66 last year 66 goals the most we EVER concede.. that will not happen again. If we score the same amount as last season 43 but concede 33 that’s a +10 which is top half finish

We already have a negative goal difference after 5 games.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Bit optimistic on some of those perhaps, but I do think it’s possible to improve on last seasons goal tally with what we have. Time will tell though.

Gray got 7 last season
Gordon got 4
So can see them getting 8-10.
Maupay gets 8-10 a season
DCL should get 15 if he stays fit

 

[MrGrumpy]

We already have a negative goal difference after 5 games.

We had no striker in them games

Also Gray was onside vs Leeds

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

So conjecture then.

Yes, conjecture...

Does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy now?

Enjoy your coffee...

 

[Rob17896]

We haven't won a game yet. We haven't scored more than one goal in any match. We aren't creating chances. And we haven't kept a clean sheet yet either to counter the problems with the toothless attack.

It's not possible to avoid a relegation battle in this league with so few goals and creativity.

You are correct but it has always been my opinion that who Everton are this season would only take shape three or four games following the window.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Unless you had the FY22 accounts then it's really not, and they won't be public for maybe 6 months

Don't need them. If I know what amortization and wages came off, and what transfer profit is being binned off versus what was realized in the window, the only things I don't know that are relevant under the present rules are revenue shifts. I can make fairly educated guesses on things like changes in the value of the TV contract from other publicly available information. If the Prem signs a bigger contract with a broadcaster, that filters through to clubs according to a formula. Ticket revenue doesn't jump around much unless COVID gets in the way.

I don't know the value of things like changes in sponsorship values unless the club tells me in a press release, so there I have to guess.

Neither of those figures are ever right.

Garner fee on that site? £15m when it's £9m
Gana fee on that site? £5m when it's £2m.
McNeil fee? 22 actual million pounds

Assume that the error terms cancel out if they're all inflated by add-ons. The inflated values you take off should generally offset the inflated values you take on, unless there's a big discrepancy between the total value of the previous contracts and the present ones. Do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Do I know with precision? No. I can tell you that it is very likely that the club didn't have enough to sign another permanent until we settled Gueye. If PSG was at 8 and we were at 2, that's six million pounds, which comes out to 30 million when amortized over a five year deal. If we had it, we would have used it, because we're obviously pushing right up against the spending limits this season trying to stay up at all costs. That's self-evident and confirmed by the data.