Current Affairs Jordan Peterson

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Got several academic mates who have had multiple papers published and a couple are becoming very well known in their fields.
Would be totally insane if they just went AWOL and started acting as an voice of authority on all sorts of subjects. lol
Like all the medics and nurses that have gone rogue, scratch beneath the surface, they're either semi-disgraced, or have an agenda to promote private care/investigations/education. With. Out. Fail.
 
You'd have to be an incredibly naive person to believe that this gives him credence or authority on any subject.
yes.


 
I think I have mentioned before, he is obviously intelligent in his field but I don't understand why he now has the answer for everything

A lot of very intelligent people are hopeless with other parts of their life
Agree. I think it's tempting once you've been a little hyped-up you feel like branching out.

Even happened to me: i got published writing about something i'm specialised in, then began to pitch articles on subjects i'm frankly not specialised in. Those got rejected, thankfully lol

Human nature to push oneself, to branch out...as ever, the listener/reader should decide for themselves the worth of what they're hearing/reading.


Sorry, does come across harsh-generally, not specifically directed @dholliday
all good, Doc. Always up for different perspectives :cheers:
 


The interview they seemed to bring him international fame… or at least visibility… I have a few mates that live for what he says…
 
They're not measured in "disasters" either but you cited that as the measurement.

Wouldn't it be the seismic scale you were looking for, considering you were the one that tried to make the insult?



They aren't my words.

they're yours
Lighten up a bit Champ. Your hate will ruin your life, don`t let it get in the way of humour or messing about. It`s a very counter-productive emotion.
 


The interview they seemed to bring him international fame… or at least visibility… I have a few mates that live for what he says…

He changes his reasons for not using pronouns at least 3 times in that video, what he does is argue things very articulately, As soon as any cracks appear in his argument appear though he switches tack, he gets away with it because mostly he presents his ideas as presentations (so without challenge) or has an audience that largely agrees with him. In this video there are some very good arguments and questions from the trans people (unfortunately not the one with the camera who is presents 'their' case in a borderline hysterical tone). In a one to one interview with a competent interviewer who is pro trans I suspect he would start to become uncomfortable very quickly if they successfully presented some of the contradictions in what he says.
 
He changes his reasons for not using pronouns at least 3 times in that video, what he does is argue things very articulately, As soon as any cracks appear in his argument appear though he switches tack, he gets away with it because mostly he presents his ideas as presentations (so without challenge) or has an audience that largely agrees with him. In this video there are some very good arguments and questions from the trans people (unfortunately not the one with the camera who is presents 'their' case in a borderline hysterical tone). In a one to one interview with a competent interviewer who is pro trans I suspect he would start to become uncomfortable very quickly if they successfully presented some of the contradictions in what he says.

I agree he has a few reasons he is opposed to pronouns but the main argument I see him trying make though is that the law shouldn’t dictate what you call people. The law doesn’t say if I call my wife he and him that I can be prosecuted no? But if I call a trans he and him I can be? Not sure if that’s true but be putting it in law isn’t that inferred? That’s an analogy he didn’t say but I’m trying to put in layman’s terms cos he is very verbose. His argument is telling us what we must say is the road to authoritarianism..

I have tried to watch a few more after his interviews in a calmer setting to understand the furore better. Have you watched the Cathy Newman interview as one?
 
I agree he has a few reasons he is opposed to pronouns but the main argument I see him trying make though is that the law shouldn’t dictate what you call people. The law doesn’t say if I call my wife he and him that I can be prosecuted no? But if I call a trans he and him I can be? Not sure if that’s true but be putting it in law isn’t that inferred? That’s an analogy he didn’t say but I’m trying to put in layman’s terms cos he is very verbose. His argument is telling us what we must say is the road to authoritarianism..

I have tried to watch a few more after his interviews in a calmer setting to understand the furore better. Have you watched the Cathy Newman interview as one?
Yes his main argument is he does not believe the rights of trans people should be made law as it is in his opinion authoritarianism. The problem is he also refuses to use pronouns regardless that it is not a legal requirement out of respect for the individual, so the stance of being opposed due to a resistance to it being a law starts to seem a smokescreen.

Would he or any of his supporters argue that we should roll back laws to protect the rights of people based on gender (m/f), race or religion because they are “authoritarian”. Well based on some of what he has said Peterson may well argue against the rights protected in law for women.
 
I agree he has a few reasons he is opposed to pronouns but the main argument I see him trying make though is that the law shouldn’t dictate what you call people. The law doesn’t say if I call my wife he and him that I can be prosecuted no? But if I call a trans he and him I can be? Not sure if that’s true but be putting it in law isn’t that inferred? That’s an analogy he didn’t say but I’m trying to put in layman’s terms cos he is very verbose. His argument is telling us what we must say is the road to authoritarianism..

I have tried to watch a few more after his interviews in a calmer setting to understand the furore better. Have you watched the Cathy Newman interview as one?

You cant be jailed for calling a Trans female, He, nor a Trans male, Her. However, if they politely ask you to use another pronoun, one that they feel comfortable with, why not just do it. Use it, make them feel comfortable and then move on with your life.

The lad who plays in net for my eldest s team regularly gets mis-gendered as a Female, "Oh wow, shes a great keeper". Nobody gets offended when they are corrected, they generally get embarrased and apologise profusely. Why is it any different to mis-gendering of a trans individual, just apologise and move on. If they act like a prick with you cause you did it, then apologise and get on with your life thinking that they acted a like a prick about it. Sound.
 
Watched his interview with Morgan and he seems a genuine fella. Don't agree with everything he says but he has a right to voice an opinion which seems a crime in the era of the western far left crusade of cancel culture.

He seems to gain a lot of heat for disagreeing with woke mumbo jumbo science such as transgenders competing in female competitive sports.
 
Watched his interview with Morgan and he seems a genuine fella. Don't agree with everything he says but he has a right to voice an opinion which seems a crime in the era of the western far left crusade of cancel culture.

He seems to gain a lot of heat for disagreeing with woke mumbo jumbo science such as transgenders competing in female competitive sports.

How do you feel about him using his platform to be mean to a lady on the basis of her appearance and an actor on the basis of how he chooses to live?
 
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