dholliday
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thanks mate
Jordan Peterson Thread.
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thanks mate
Jordan Peterson is not perfect. Sometimes, usually when he is angry and hurried, he falls below his own standards of truthfulness and generalizes recklessly about feminism, Marxism, postmodernism and the condition of the universities. Sometimes his passion can take on a hectoring tone. And as with any genuinely interesting and important thinker, there is much to discuss, disagree with, and criticize in his body of work as well as to learn from.
One of the most disappointing features of the current polarization surrounding him is that (to my knowledge) there is yet to emerge any genuinely constructive critique of his work, one that would enable us to get a better sense of both its strengths and weaknesses. But such a critique can only come from those with a largeness of mind and spirit that does not dismiss ideas not immediately tractable to the Zeitgeist, that is ready to find truth in what may at first seem confusing and elusive because it does not come readily packaged in a neat theory.
Such an evaluation is impeded by the culture of knowingness, and most of all by its more unscrupulous representatives, who have not been reluctant to vilify a good, courageous and - yes - inspiring man.
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2018/08/30/4889940.htm
TL;DR for most, but a lovely buffet for yours truly. The usual suspects will hate this one.
One of the most disappointing features of the current polarization surrounding him is that (to my knowledge) there is yet to emerge any genuinely constructive critique of his work, one that would enable us to get a better sense of both its strengths and weaknesses. But such a critique can only come from those with a largeness of mind and spirit that does not dismiss ideas not immediately tractable to the Zeitgeist, that is ready to find truth in what may at first seem confusing and elusive because it does not come readily packaged in a neat theory.
Such an evaluation is impeded by the culture of knowingness, and most of all by its more unscrupulous representatives, who have not been reluctant to vilify a good, courageous and - yes - inspiring man.
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2018/08/30/4889940.htm
TL;DR for most, but a lovely buffet for yours truly. The usual suspects will hate this one.
magicjuan
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The argument rests on the word zeitgeist, which is becoming more and more short lived.
Peterson, as with all levels of celebrity, understand that notoriety, degrees of shock and controversy as well as puerile discourse are essential to serve the system that treats him so well.
He plays to his own crowd. Snakes, oil and men....
abelard
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ah yes, the ol' "nothing meets my terms because I have set my terms so that nothing meets them" routine
(or, to the sort of ornery internet pedants who tend to love Jordan Peterson, the "syllogistic fallacy")
http://www.canadalandshow.com/podcast/canadaland-guide-jordan-b-peterson/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/jordan-petersons-gospel-of-masculinity
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/jordan-peterson-12-rules-kate-manne-review/
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/05/22/the-culture-of-cruelty/
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/05/14/book-review-jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life/
^seems only sporting of you to weigh in on some of these, muzzrah, since you started us off ; )
abelard
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lol didn't think so
did you know that Nietzsche also once wrote something about you?
“Whoever knows he is deep, strives for clarity; whoever would like to appear deep to the crowd, strives for obscurity. For the crowd considers anything deep if only it cannot see to the bottom: the crowd is so timid and afraid of going into the water.”
Ah, that's mean but it did make me chuckle. Kudos to whoever took the time to edit it all together. PEEK-A-BOO!
I'm not being obscure. This is an example of exactly the sort of thing JBP's opponents do with his words to build what they want him to be so they can tear that straw man down. Irony is lost on the left. No matter, you are now free to self-congratulate for an effective defense of the faith.
"Nietzche is peachy, but sex won't rot your brain." - doggerel from my long lost college days.
abelard
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But as I already alluded to, you've clearly not even read any of the examples posted, and instead gone with the usual lazy caricature (which is, ironically but not surprisingly, the same thing you accuse "the left" of doing).
Time management. I'd read about half of those before your post.
abelard
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dholliday
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Nicely worded.
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