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So then, Jordan Peterson. I'm a big fan, which should be no surprise to those who know me in these parts. If you know who he is, please weigh in. He's creating quite the rumble with his new book.

Have you cleaned your room? Do you understand what this means?
Are you sorting yourself out?
Have you identified your dragon?

I understand that there is a better than even chance this is going to land over in current affairs, but my optimistic side puts this into the Ale House.

If you don't know who Jordan Peterson is, or if you do and you haven't seen the Cathy Newman Channel 4 interview, here it is. Join the millions who have watched so far.

 
So then, Jordan Peterson. I'm a big fan, which should be no surprise to those who know me in these parts. If you know who he is, please weigh in. He's creating quite the rumble with his new book.

Have you cleaned your room? Do you understand what this means?
Are you sorting yourself out?
Have you identified your dragon?

I understand that there is a better than even chance this is going to land over in current affairs, but my optimistic side puts this into the Ale House.

If you don't know who Jordan Peterson is, or if you do and you haven't seen the Cathy Newman Channel 4 interview, here it is. Join the millions who have watched so far.



Big fan of his as well.
 
I like him one of my sons made me aware of him last year so I looked up some stuff, he knows what he's talking about. I saw the full interview with Kathy Newman it was interesting and I agreed with all of what he said about the gender pay gap and about the trans stuff. There was an article in the Guardian today with an over the top headline about how dangerous he is or something similar, I read it and once again the press scare monger when someone comes along and challenges them. These days if you express an opinion about 'topical issues' you get shot at so it great to hear him shoot down Newman, lets face it she had been put there to make an idiot out of him and bring him in line. It backfired spectacularly.
 
my mrs said "he speaks weird, he sounds strange", and I had to explain its because he is that intelligent he picks every single word he says very carefully as he is saying it, so this can sound quite strange as it doesn't flow like a paragraph out of the mouth of an idiot
 
I like him one of my sons made me aware of him last year so I looked up some stuff, he knows what he's talking about. I saw the full interview with Kathy Newman it was interesting and I agreed with all of what he said about the gender pay gap and about the trans stuff. There was an article in the Guardian today with an over the top headline about how dangerous he is or something similar, I read it and once again the press scare monger when someone comes along and challenges them. These days if you express an opinion about 'topical issues' you get shot at so it great to hear him shoot down Newman, lets face it she had been put there to make an idiot out of him and bring him in line. It backfired spectacularly.

Saw that interview as well. As far as the trans stuff, I don't have a problem with someone identifying as a "he" or a "she" but these made-up gender-neutral pronouns such as "ze" (which sounds French) and "zir" are over the top. Besides, there's already a perfectly acceptable word -- "it."
 
Saw that interview as well. As far as the trans stuff, I don't have a problem with someone identifying as a "he" or a "she" but these made-up gender-neutral pronouns such as "ze" (which sounds French) and "zir" are over the top. Besides, there's already a perfectly acceptable word -- "it."
Agree mate, live and let live....due to pressure groups now though were getting schools allowing 6 year old boys to wear dresses, I didn't know what day it was when I was 6 let alone anything else. The lefty brigade jump on the people who object and make them out to be phobic. The way things are there's gonna be a lot of confused kids growing up. The important point for me though is the pressure groups objecting are not interested in the real people who've lived with it for years they don't represent them at all, only their own agenda. It's bonkers. Did you see the story about the Nymphs painting being taken down in the Manchester Art Gallery? Ridiculous. Theresa May banging on about women's rights yesterday in the Commons why doesn't she go over to Syria, Iraq, Libya and talk to some women there who've had their families murdered and houses bombed, cause she supported all that violence. A fat lot of good she's done for women's right. Peterson said he would refuse to call someone ze or whatever it was and I don't blame him.
 
I have very mixed views of him, personally. A lot of his own pointlessly over-intellectualized views boil down to his old-white-guy world view that he has trouble stepping out of. He seems to be spending a bizarre amount of time hyperbolically attacking things that will have zero effect on his life, such as gender-neutral pronouns...I have trouble imagining a more idiotic battle to choose to fight.

But I strongly disagree with other university professors and students who try to censure his views just because they don't agree with him.

Not surprisingly, The Guardian villifies him:

https://www.theguardian.com/science...he-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest
 
Agree mate, live and let live....due to pressure groups now though were getting schools allowing 6 year old boys to wear dresses, I didn't know what day it was when I was 6 let alone anything else. The lefty brigade jump on the people who object and make them out to be phobic. The way things are there's gonna be a lot of confused kids growing up. The important point for me though is the pressure groups objecting are not interested in the real people who've lived with it for years they don't represent them at all, only their own agenda. It's bonkers. Did you see the story about the Nymphs painting being taken down in the Manchester Art Gallery? Ridiculous. Theresa May banging on about women's rights yesterday in the Commons why doesn't she go over to Syria, Iraq, Libya and talk to some women there who've had their families murdered and houses bombed, cause she supported all that violence. A fat lot of good she's done for women's right. Peterson said he would refuse to call someone ze or whatever it was and I don't blame him.

That progressive agenda has made today's millennials, by and large, the shiftless, entitled brats they are. They're the product of an overprotective, bubble-wrapping train of thought that tells them they're all special, don't need to be accountable for their actions (because mummy and daddy will take care of everything) and can't fail. Then when real life comes up and hits them full in the face, they're not equipped to do anything about it except whine and stamp their feet. My late wife once worked with a friend who had a head-hunting firm, and the salary demands these kids made fresh out of school would make your head spin. "I want it all and I want it now; to hell with working for 30 years for it."
I'm 55, by the way, but I can still remember times in elementary school when other kids had to repeat an entire year because of their grades. Not today -- can't risk harming the little darlings' self-esteem. And what has that produced? A generation of functional illiterates. Case in point: My mother used to be an assistant professor of history at the local university. As I was a journalist (writer and copy editor) for 33 years, she thought I'd get a kick out of reading some of the papers written by her fourth-year students. I was appalled at how bad the grammar and use of proper punctuation was (and their laptops' spell-checker function obviously couldn't discern the proper use of their, there and they're; it's and its; and your and you're -- something that's sadly prevalent on here as well).
Winning and losing used to be things that taught you how to progress, to persevere. Not any more. Now everyone gets a participation trophy.
 
I have very mixed views of him, personally. A lot of his own pointlessly over-intellectualized views boil down to his old-white-guy world view that he has trouble stepping out of. He seems to be spending a bizarre amount of time hyperbolically attacking things that will have zero effect on his life, such as gender-neutral pronouns...I have trouble imagining a more idiotic battle to choose to fight.

But I strongly disagree with other university professors and students who try to censure his views just because they don't agree with him.

Not surprisingly, The Guardian villifies him:

https://www.theguardian.com/science...he-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest

So being responsible for one's own actions and not playing the "poor me, I'm the victim here" card all the time is the old white guy world? I've never been happier to be 55, male and white.
 
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