Joel Robles

AaronTheBlue · January 7, 2016

Flynnthistle said:
Inaki bergara. Who you say? Me too! A mediocre Spanish back up keeper throughout his career.

past playing career has absolutely nothing to do with how good a coach you are, at all.

Flynnthistle · January 7, 2016

AaronTheBlue said:
past playing career has absolutely nothing to do with how good a coach you are, at all.

I actually completely agree. Wenger, mourinho and ferguson show it's not about the level you play at but your abilities to do the job. However this guy appointed in 2013 has coincided with a horrendous run of form for our keepers, I say keepers, just Howard really. It won't be his fault. Not completely.

AaronTheBlue · January 7, 2016

Flynnthistle said:
I actually completely agree. Wenger, mourinho and ferguson show it's not about the level you play at but your abilities to do the job. However this guy appointed in 2013 has coincided with a horrendous run of form for our keepers, I say keepers, just Howard really. It won't be his fault. Not completely.

Not correct, actually.

Howard had his best season in years, after the appointment of the new GC, Joel actually does come off his line quite often for crosses, but needs game time and confidence to do so, he works closely with Inaki B and has done for a while.

So i don't really think we can say anything against him, we certainly can't blame him for howard being turd now.

Flynnthistle · January 7, 2016

AaronTheBlue said:
Not correct, actually.

Howard had his best season in years, after the appointment of the new GC, Joel actually does come off his line quite often for crosses, but needs game time and confidence to do so, he works closely with Inaki B and has done for a while.

So i don't really think we can say anything against him, we certainly can't blame him for howard being turd now.

Or was that part of the moyes effect that had us defend set pieces effectively and show shape and knowledge as to how to defend as a team in roberto's first season that was completely lost in the last season and a half?

But for what it's worth I agree, Robles when given an all too short run last season showed the confidence to come off his line and looked assured in doing so.

You are correct though it's not right to insinuate fault with a member of coaching staff without proper knowledge of his workings and the added caveat that Howard is done, completely done at this level.

mlyons · January 7, 2016

Didn't see the match, but I'm glad he played well. I assume he's starting against Dag and Red, too -- hopefully he can put up a nice clean sheet there and really make Martinez' decision about who to start against Man City in the league more interesting.

Bruce Wayne · January 7, 2016

He did play really well. The one save from du Bruyne (I think) was really top drawer. Hopefully he'll play at the weekend too.

MikeH72 · January 7, 2016

Both of his saves, Howard would have got nowhere near. As now proven, the goalkeeper has been the difference between us winning and losing/drawing games all season

ijjysmith · January 7, 2016

Bruce Wayne said:
He did play really well. The one save from du Bruyne (I think) was really top drawer. Hopefully he'll play at the weekend too.

Yeah reckon he was always down for yesterday and Saturday.

The big test will be next Wednesday in the league.

blue61 · January 7, 2016

mikeh72 said:
Both of his saves, Howard would have got nowhere near. As now proven, the goalkeeper has been the difference between us winning and losing/drawing games all season

He would have saved the first one to be fair, but even his best 'eyes shut star jump' would have got him nowhere near the second one. Top drawer save that. Personally, I think Robles displays an air of authority in the box which Howard sadly lost a long time ago.

royalbalou · January 7, 2016

He's always been on a hiding to nothing as a 'ex-Wigan' 2nd choice but credit where it's due.
His last few games have been pretty solid and last night he actually looked like a good keeper. Would definitely give him a run in the team, could save us a fortune if it works out.
We need another keeper anyway...up to Joel if it's a first choice or second choice

Groucho · January 7, 2016

Flynnthistle said:
Inaki bergara. Who you say? Me too! A mediocre Spanish back up keeper throughout his career.

AaronTheBlue said:
past playing career has absolutely nothing to do with how good a coach you are, at all.

Indeed. Alex Ferguson was a mediocre player, and that didn't show in his management.

Chris Woods, who was goalkeeping coach before Inaki, was regarded as a top keeper but widely criticised if I recall correctly as a poor goalkeeping coach.

davids · January 7, 2016

And yet someone suggested last night he should have done better with the Navas goal.

Darth Toffeeman · January 7, 2016

mascoq66700 said:
And yet someone suggested last night he should have done better with the Navas goal.

I thought he got his angle wrong and having seen it on the tv a few times now he did. Left too big an area to his left making the target easy for Navas. He has a habit of positioning himself wrong when someone is coming in on the angle (Krasnodar in the Europa too), but he can work on his positioning. It has got better over the last few years.

Having said that his save from De Bruyne was outstanding. Not many would have got down and got a strong hand to that.
I would like to see him get a run as first choice keeper, especially once the League Cup is over with.

MikeH72 · January 7, 2016

Groucho said:
Indeed. Alex Ferguson was a mediocre player, and that didn't show in his management.

Chris Woods, who was goalkeeping coach before Inaki, was regarded as a top keeper but widely criticised if I recall correctly as a poor goalkeeping coach.

On the flip side, Roy Keane was a top player but an absolutely appalling manager