Transfer Rumour Joe Hart

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Hart talks to much about his game and fails to live up to his own hype and if Guardiola wants rid, it's he who is the football fool, us naysayers are in good company. And I'm not counting that sale pitch he tried to pull after unceremoniously dethroning Hart!
 
If I was Moshiri and City offered Everton Hart on a loan I'd bite their hand off. Quality keeper for a season without having to shell out 30 mil quid. A complete no-brainer. If City offered us Silva or Utd Rooney I'd take those too.
I think Hart on a permanent deal would be a good signing but I'm not sold on a loan deal. Any loan deal would involve a fee (probably somewhere around £4Mish) and a huge chunk of wages (even if we only covered a portion of his wage we're looking at another £4M or so) so would not be all that low cost in the short term. There are then two potential outcomes. 1. He has a good season and city cash out and he signs for a CL team and we have effectively helped city out at a hefty cost to ourselves with no return in our investment. 2. He has a poor season and we have spent £8Mish for that. There is of course a third scenario where he plays well and we activate a clause to sign him (Hart would have to agree to stay of course) but, in all likelihood, this is the least likely outcome. A loan, in the medium term, is the least cost effective solution for this type of player.
 
What Pep has done to Hart may turn out to be a masterstroke if we were to sign him, on loan or permanently. He has always come across as arrogant and cocky but never had anyone of quality to push him so was always number 1 regardless. Now that his ego has been dented by one of the best managers in the world it may knock him down a peg or two and make him eager to prove just how good he is and can be.
 

What Pep has done to Hart may turn out to be a masterstroke if we were to sign him, on loan or permanently. He has always come across as arrogant and cocky but never had anyone of quality to push him so was always number 1 regardless. Now that his ego has been dented by one of the best managers in the world it may knock him down a peg or two and make him eager to prove just how good he is and can be.

I really hope Pep comes unstuck, not just on this but on everything, not convinved his way will work week in week out in this league, if we get Hart the game in a few weeks at City will be great!
 
Really dislike Guardiola. I'd like to see him manage a team without astronomic resources. Winning titles with Barcelona and Bayern doesn't impress me. David Moyes could do that.
 

Begovic looks like he's very much available now and would be much cheaper than Hart. Begovic went for £8 million a few years ago and is on £60k wages. Hart is on £120k wages and might cost £20 million or more in transfer fees. Hart and Begovic are both 29 years old with plenty of time left (in keeper years). Hart absolutely has a higher ceiling than Begovic if he can return to his form from a few years ago. It's a difficult one, do you pay extra for Hart and hope he returns to his previous form? Or do you take a solid top-10 GK (Begovic) for cheap right now and maybe start looking for our own version of Butland as a future replacement.

For me it's all about how much we would have to pay for Hart. If it's a mountain in transfers and wages, I think I'd rather have Begovic.
 
My eyes are burning reading some of the utter turbo gash that has been spouted off in this thread over its duration.
Highlights include "Stek and Joel are better". That would be Mr "Mediocre, 32 been to a world cup final and thats about it" Stekelenberg, played one game where he was good and thats it, and Mr "Flappy hands, but marginally better than Howard so that's why he got played last year" Joel.
Not much to write home about when you compare 4x Golden Glove Joe Hart who has annually been in the top 5 keepers in the league for the last however many years, won several league titles and who Buffon, arguably THE greatest goalkeeper of our time has just pegged as top 3 in the world.

Then there's people spouting off about how Hart is a risk.
No more of a risk than signing any other player who has proven themselves at the very highest level for many years, and is injury free.
30 million for a top class keeper is par for the course these days, if you haven't realised we just spent 25million on Bolasie who has hardly starred in the premier league, been very inconsistent.

Then there's the "STEK 4 number 1" crew who are insistent that one decent game merits starting the next 37.


My brain hurts...
 
Begovic looks like he's very much available now and would be much cheaper than Hart. Begovic went for £8 million a few years ago and is on £60k wages. Hart is on £120k wages and might cost £20 million or more in transfer fees. Hart and Begovic are both 29 years old with plenty of time left (in keeper years). Hart absolutely has a higher ceiling than Begovic if he can return to his form from a few years ago. It's a difficult one, do you pay extra for Hart and hope he returns to his previous form? Or do you take a solid top-10 GK (Begovic) for cheap right now and maybe start looking for our own version of Butland as a future replacement.

For me it's all about how much we would have to pay for Hart. If it's a mountain in transfers and wages, I think I'd rather have Begovic.
I personally can't see us negotiating with Chelsea whilst they're so opening trying to unsettle Lukaku.
 

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