Who? Seriously, name some.
Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46
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Manchin, Sanders. Honestly even the likes of Warnock, Masters etc would probably do it and that is just from the senate.
Trump is a drag on the Republican Party not a boost and lost to probably the weakest candidate the democrats have put forward for presidency since Mondale and Dukakis.
A sane Republican Party under someone like Romney would be a shoe in at the next election. As it is the Republican Party is going to jump on the Trump train which is even angrier, more senile and under more lawsuits than last time. More fool them.
TN Toffee
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I disagree with most of this. The traditional Republican Party has been becoming more and more of a minority in this country probably for about three decades now. Trump got a lot of people in this country who were never politically active to start showing up at the polls, and as such may be the only reason they are still viable in nationwide elections. IMO that explains a lot of why the establishment is so hesitant to toss him aside.
I don’t know about the others, but Bernie Sanders simply has no shot at winning a general election. A world where we are only avoiding Trump being elected by an eyelash doesn’t exist in the same Overton Window as one where Bernie Sanders can win. They’re just too far apart politically.
tantavisiteler
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Should ve never OK'ed the Israeli invasion. Probs will lose the elections now
Martin Alvito
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It's not shaping up well. The timing of the invasion may prove fortuitous, in the sense that it's happening with ample time for candidates to get onto the ballots in most states. If Biden's approval numbers with Democrats go into the tank, bigger fish than Dean Phillips are likely to jump into the race.
The Democrats don't have much of a bench, though. I couldn't pick half of the Democratic senators out of a lineup, and I pay attention to this stuff. The Democratic occupants of governor's mansions are even worse. I'd be willing to bet that most Americans would recognize one or two: Newsom, and their own governor, if a Democrat. I looked, and there were only five or six whose faces I had ever seen.
That's a knock-on effect from political coverage having become almost exclusively national in recent years, as well as the fact that most gubernatorial races are settled in the primary. It wasn't long ago that the preponderance of elected presidents passed through a governor's mansion along the way, and senators had a serious uphill sled due to their long voting records.
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TN Toffee
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I understand Democrats not supporting Biden’s position on Israel, but surely most of their voters are informed enough to realize that large amounts of them staying home or voting third party will almost certainly hand the election to Trump. It’s not like a Republican president is going to have anything other than any even more pro-Israel stance.
This is what I don't understand
OK, sure fine, let's beat up Biden for being pro-Israel, which I guess means he's a fire breathing maniac out for blood against innocent civilians to the "progressive" wing of the party
But the other side is STILL led by Trump.
I just don't understand the logic that progressives will stay at home knowing that THAT is the alternative
Some echoes of the “Hillary isn’t liberal enough for me” non votes that helped Trump in 2016.
I honestly don’t think if Trump is elected this time he’ll ever leave voluntarily either so it isn’t even just 4 years of him we’re likely faced with.
Martin Alvito
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Yes. Adam Kinzinger has been making the talk show rounds, as he has a book coming out. I thought he put the situation well, which is that the upcoming election is in fact a referendum on the Constitution and the rule of law, and that the Democrats need to make that very clear.
The opinion polling right now suggests that they do not understand their situation. It's also early days, so we'll want to see the data when the election is on the front burner and see what Muslim voters in this country are saying to pollsters then. Zaller may be right, and their outrage may recede once Trump and the election are top of mind.
It could be argued that this line of thought is breeding pure evil in the world based on effectively a popularity contest. Whatever your thoughts on the conflict , biden approving and backing israel is backing the murder of women and children and thousands of people in retalliation for the murder of a number much smaller. It is fair to say Israel can actively do this because of support from the likes of America.
So to say at least it isn't trump is giving your authorisation for such atrocities in the world to occur. Whatever trump policies you disagree with, they pale in comparison to that. The most sensible solution is to have someone else represent the democrats at election because then you can fall back into the popularity contest aspect of politics. Otherwise condoning evil acts should not be rewarded.
If trump backed racist groups as he mentioned them previously to murder black Americans then it would be deemed on the levels of Hitler / Stalin and the like. There is very little difference between that and backing israel , except the latter is not Americans in their only difference.
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You also completely miss the context of my post, which was solely about who American Muslims would vote for in the next election.
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If its Biden v Trump as seems likely it really is the worst of America.
How is it that Harris has become so unpopular from essentially doing nothing? As all VPs do?
How is it that Harris has become so unpopular from essentially doing nothing? As all VPs do?
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