Jealous of Chelsea or Man City

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Chelsea and City's success is utterly hollow. Literally any club would be able to win the league with the investment they've had - they haven't earned anything.

Manchester United and Arsenal, on the other hand, have earned what they have achieved. Those are the two clubs I'm envious of.
 
It's a nice notion to suggest you would want to stay close to those that make you want to improve and move away, should you get infinite wealth, do you really think you would keep the same circle? Mm. No, me either,
 
Chelsea and City's success is utterly hollow. Literally any club would be able to win the league with the investment they've had - they haven't earned anything.

Manchester United and Arsenal, on the other hand, have earned what they have achieved. Those are the two clubs I'm envious of.

the days of self growth are over mate, Utd caught their success at the right time and arsenal now can not keep up with the big boys, Spurs are the only other club that are doing it the right way and they have no chance of breaking the glass ceiling that Citeh and chelsea have made with Utd but the question is can Utd sustain without fergie
 
I can't say I am not jealous of them being able to go out and buy anyone they want. I am and it makes me sick to see the crazy wages being paid to some players. I think when I saw a middle aged man and his child with a sign saying" Brand new city Fans" at a game last season summed it up for me. Attracting fickle supporters is one of the prices you pay for buying success.. it pisses off some good city fans I know too.
But would I put up with all of it just for a trophy. Yes.
 
Friend of mine is a long standing City supporter, for about 40 years, and he often tells me it was more passionate and more of an emotional ride when they were a 'normal' club. He was pleased they won the league, etc., but a lot of the traditional City supporters are simply having fun while they can, they don't expect it to go on forever.

The city supporters around here I speak to can't believe their luck what has happened. Instead of worrying about relegation battles and humiliation in the derby. They are 'a big force' once again. Annual Wembley visits and challenging for the biggest domestic honours. How I would love to win the title one day again and beat the RS 6-1 at their place, like they did. Am I jealous you bet I am!
 
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Money can buy quality players but it cant buy true class. There is something superficial about Man City and Chelsea. They kind of represent all that is going wrong in a world that is evidencing increasing polarisation of wealth.Everton Football Club is the opposite of superficial. It has a soul to it; it has class.
 
Money can buy quality players but it cant buy true class. There is something superficial about Man City and Chelsea. They kind of represent all that is going wrong in a world that is evidencing increasing polarisation of wealth.Everton Football Club is the opposite of superficial. It has a soul to it; it has class.

This, you just can't buy what you find at Goodison............................soul
 
TBH call me cynical and neg rep meh, but at the end of the day "life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you'll get" So I would rather be 'superficial' like city and Chelsea but actually win something than have 'soul' and 'class'. After all, the history books show the victor not the one who had honour and pride- (think about the Stark's)
 
Money can buy quality players but it cant buy true class. There is something superficial about Man City and Chelsea. They kind of represent all that is going wrong in a world that is evidencing increasing polarisation of wealth.Everton Football Club is the opposite of superficial. It has a soul to it; it has class.

You are absolutely right in everything you say. But you don't win trophies and stay above Liverpool with no money. This after all is the anti kenwrights brigades only plan that an Arab billionaire buys us. Not that I am against this ,just cant see it happening.
 
Too right I am jealous. Wish we had that money then and only then would we be able to compete. Rather be hated for winning things than liked for being plucky.
 
not jealous of chelsea or man city. those clubs are engaged in faustian pacts that have seen them lose their souls for grand riches and league titles. when their owners decide that they don't want to "play" no more, it will end in the deaths of those clubs.
 
TBH call me cynical and neg rep meh, but at the end of the day "life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you'll get" So I would rather be 'superficial' like city and Chelsea but actually win something than have 'soul' and 'class'. After all, the history books show the victor not the one who had honour and pride- (think about the Stark's)

we've won more in our history than those two though, in england anyway. chelsea's recent success in europe makes this point a little less irrelevant, but we'll always be bigger than city. it will go wrong for them soon and in 20 years people won't be talking about them as one of the "biggest clubs in england" as they seem to be at the moment
 
Anyone who thinks we haven't already sold our soul is kidding themselves.

The choice isn't authenticity vs trophies, the choice is trophies vs no trophies.

Either way we'll have a team mostly staffed by mercenaries with no real connection to the club except a desire for ridiculously large wages they can't get in their own countries paid for by rupert murdoch sky sports and only supplemented by the local support, many of whom are priced out by ticket prices that are unbelievably high compared to even the recent past, run by a board of men with no real interest in the club and propped up by loans from the banks.

You'd think we were bilbao from some of these comments. What exactly would we lose in a takeover? Our wonderful honest chairman and his rapport with the fans? Our local homegrown talent who never get in the team anyway?
 
Anyone who thinks we haven't already sold our soul is kidding themselves.

The choice isn't authenticity vs trophies, the choice is trophies vs no trophies.

Either way we'll have a team mostly staffed by mercenaries with no real connection to the club except a desire for ridiculously large wages they can't get in their own countries paid for by rupert murdoch sky sports and only supplemented by the local support, many of whom are priced out by ticket prices that are unbelievably high compared to even the recent past, run by a board of men with no real interest in the club and propped up by loans from the banks.

You'd think we were bilbao from some of these comments. What exactly would we lose in a takeover? Our wonderful honest chairman and his rapport with the fans? Our local homegrown talent who never get in the team anyway?

No, not like that at all lid.
 
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