Its all on repeat though each year we enter the summer Market with the same questions aims and outcomes. This signing doesn't appear to be anything different .
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The Athletic journalist Adam Crafton speaking on Sky Sports News' Paper Talk this morning:
"For Everton, Frank Lampard's had an issue in terms of keeping players fit in the second half of the season. With James Tarkowski, you have a player there who has played a lot of minutes over the last three or four years. He's incredibly consistent.
"It's a four-year deal for somebody who turns 30 in November but Frank Lampard felt he wanted a player with stature and leadership at the back who can consitently play. It's a good investment.
"Fulham had a nibble, Aston Villa were involved in discussions as well before they went for Diego Carlos but the Everton move worked best for Tarkowski, who wanted to stay close to his family in the North West. The medical yesterday went without a hitch."
"For Everton, Frank Lampard's had an issue in terms of keeping players fit in the second half of the season. With James Tarkowski, you have a player there who has played a lot of minutes over the last three or four years. He's incredibly consistent.
"It's a four-year deal for somebody who turns 30 in November but Frank Lampard felt he wanted a player with stature and leadership at the back who can consitently play. It's a good investment.
"Fulham had a nibble, Aston Villa were involved in discussions as well before they went for Diego Carlos but the Everton move worked best for Tarkowski, who wanted to stay close to his family in the North West. The medical yesterday went without a hitch."
29 is generally not the right age bracket for us going forward but I see goalkeeper and centre half as the exceptions. You normally need experience in those positions more than anywhere else on the field and then you put the youth and energy around them. I think he automatically becomes our best defender so I don't have a problem at all on a free. If he was costing 20m I would understand the concerns, but this is the market we currently need to use.
I think its a good signing to, to be honest its enabling the next couple of years to my mind, when we will be vulnerable, takes him to 34 though - here until 2026, its a big commitment by us though likely required id imagine to get the deal over the line, a career contract for the lad himself.
Its likely a cost of about 4-5 mill a year with no ammortisation, to put that in context Yerry cost us 11.9 mill a year.
He appeared to be a leader in the Burnley team and more than anything last year that was a trait we were sorely missing.
The centre back pairing for Burnley were Tarkowski and Ben Mee. Because of injury Ben Mee missed the last quarter of the season and Collins was brought in to replace him. It didn't seem to affect how the defence operated and you would imagine Tarkowski must take a lot of credit for that.
The centre back pairing for Burnley were Tarkowski and Ben Mee. Because of injury Ben Mee missed the last quarter of the season and Collins was brought in to replace him. It didn't seem to affect how the defence operated and you would imagine Tarkowski must take a lot of credit for that.
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £8m
[Poor language removed] Van Dyke across the road is 30 would we be so bothered if we managed to sign him now at his age , not putting them in the same bracket but his age shouldnt be held against him
Many seem to be missing the point a bit. Of course we have to consider the age of the player but, as many have pointed out, 33 isn’t too ancient in CB years.
The main worry is if he’s crap. Had we stood firm on something like 2 years with an option, then we have a maximum of two years’ exposure as whatever salary we’re giving him. Because we’re Everton, and even though we’ve seemingly signed him completely unopposed (Villa signed Carlos and Fulham is too far away for him) we’ve just dived straight in with a four year deal.
If he is indeed crap - and I’ve said many times already I can’t shake the feeling he will be - that means nobody else will touch him at the wages he’s on and so, YET AGAIN, we’ll be left with another player on a long-term contract, gobbling up wages for doing absolutely nothing.
We should have offered him a max of two years guaranteed. If he refused - and I know this is novel to Everton’s team of crack negotiators - we should have said “no thanks”, given him a couple of days to realise it’s the best offer on the table and come crawling back, and if he didn’t then just move onto another target.
Some players are worth going beyond your intended terms to sign. This lad isn’t one of them.
Hope I’m wrong, bet I’m right.
The main worry is if he’s crap. Had we stood firm on something like 2 years with an option, then we have a maximum of two years’ exposure as whatever salary we’re giving him. Because we’re Everton, and even though we’ve seemingly signed him completely unopposed (Villa signed Carlos and Fulham is too far away for him) we’ve just dived straight in with a four year deal.
If he is indeed crap - and I’ve said many times already I can’t shake the feeling he will be - that means nobody else will touch him at the wages he’s on and so, YET AGAIN, we’ll be left with another player on a long-term contract, gobbling up wages for doing absolutely nothing.
We should have offered him a max of two years guaranteed. If he refused - and I know this is novel to Everton’s team of crack negotiators - we should have said “no thanks”, given him a couple of days to realise it’s the best offer on the table and come crawling back, and if he didn’t then just move onto another target.
Some players are worth going beyond your intended terms to sign. This lad isn’t one of them.
Hope I’m wrong, bet I’m right.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
True, Gough said when he played at Everton his basic wages were the highest he ever received throughout his career, worth every penny on his performances in that first season.
coleman=quality
Player Valuation: £15m
When linked with him I was concerned over the 90k pw however it’s looking more like 120k pw as mentioned above he’s consistent in regards to minutes played which we need he’s not a bad defender and better than what we currently have except maybe Mina who isn’t reliable and I’d like to see him gone. Not a bad start to the window if we can build on these kind of signings. Like to see DCL and richarlison moved on quickly if they’re to go.
I know what you mean by this but it's also what worries me most about the signing. It's a bit like when Tarkowski himself replaced Keane, it doesn't seem to affect them and that inevitably leads you to wonder whether it's the individual players who make them solid or if it's just because of the structure. Hopefully we'll find that Burnley have actually been holding back his strengths, rather than disguising his weaknesses.
bluejohn66
Player Valuation: £15m
All these calls about he's never injured, remember he's coming here, our medical team will soon snap him in half !!
He actually reminds me of Jagielka in terms of style of play. I don’t think he’s going to be as slow as some people think either, he seems to make a fair few recovery blocks and tackles. Would like us to keep the wages below £100k a week though to be honest.
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £60m
He'll be a great signing and it's another nail in the Keane/Holgate partnership coffin, which can only be a good thing.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
I think he could be a good signing but £6M a year for four years was a worry, then I realised Mina was on about the same with the wages plus a £28M transfer fee and we hardly saw him!!
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