NeroCeasar
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This is actually hitting deranged levels now at this stage.
Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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Yep, pretty much every single person in the thread, apart from two, recognise and acknowledge that both hamas and Israel have committed atrocities.
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Only one side illegally occupies another and breaking international law by doing so.
I don't dispute that, yet I mean in terms of maltreatment of hostages/prisoners and the potential committing of war crimes.
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Would you say that one side has committed them on a much larger scale and is backed by a world superpower?
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Oh snap
Again, I won't dispute that, and if you wish to peruse my comments in this thread from the beginning I've been critical of Israel's stance and its action.
I'm not defending Israel (the post you quoted has me mentioning committing crimes many times, over), nor am I defending Hamas.
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I just disagree with the statement that both sides are equally culpable
Have they both committed atrocities? Yes, so they are equally culpable of that. Is the scale equal? No, but that wasn't the discussion.
It was one poster's biased view regarding Israeli's hostages being freed and their mistreatment, while ignoring how Israel had done the same.
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Pregnant woman killed in West Bank
Israeli forces shot dead an eight months pregnant Palestinian in the occupied West Bank today, as the military said it had “targeted terrorists” in the area.The Palestinian health ministry in Ramallah said Sundus Jamal Muhammad Shalabi was killed in a pre-dawn incident in the Nur Shams refugee camp, where the Israeli occupation forces have been conducting raids.
Her husband, Yazan Abu Shola, was also critically injured, the ministry said.
The 23-year-old mother-to-be was dead when she arrived at a local hospital, the ministry said.
“Medical teams were unable to save the baby’s life due to the occupation (Israel’s military) preventing the transfer of the injured to the hospital,” a ministry statement said.
The Israeli military said it was looking into the claim that Shalabi had been killed by Israeli fire.
The incident took place at around dawn, Murad Alyan, a member of the popular committee in the camp, told AFP.
“The two were trying to leave the camp before the occupation forces advanced into it. They were shot while they were inside their car, and the wife and her baby were martyred, while the husband was injured,” Alyan said.
The Palestinian foreign ministry condemned what it described “a crime of execution committed by the occupation forces this morning”.
The ministry accused Israeli forces of “deliberately targeting defenceless civilians”
I ain't going to argue against media bias, especially with Western media and how they have portrayed Israeli actions vs Hamas.
But I do think this particular post is itself probably not the best example. The Palestinians were 'prisoners' in the sense they'd been arrested and convicted.
The validity of the laws and convictions are fair to question, and I do have serious and deep concerns about how many have been convicted and then treated.
However, you can see how, when media outlets, have gone against this narrative the response has been itself telling.
Isaac Herzog attacks BBC over false equivalence on Hamas hostages | The Jerusalem Post
Herzog called for an end to what he described as a “preposterous” narrative that equates Israel’s legal system with Hamas’s brutality.
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What I am saying is, I am more concerned with how these people are becoming 'prisoners' rather than questioning the BBC's use of it.
That is where the BBC should be focusing any media attention.
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A lot of them Palestinians have never even been charged, and a lot are children.I ain't going to argue against media bias, especially with Western media and how they have portrayed Israeli actions vs Hamas.
But I do think this particular post is itself probably not the best example. The Palestinians were 'prisoners' in the sense they'd been arrested and convicted.
The validity of the laws and convictions are fair to question, and I do have serious and deep concerns about how many have been convicted and then treated.
However, you can see how, when media outlets, have gone against this narrative the response has been itself telling.
Isaac Herzog attacks BBC over false equivalence on Hamas hostages | The Jerusalem Post
Herzog called for an end to what he described as a “preposterous” narrative that equates Israel’s legal system with Hamas’s brutality.
What I am saying is, I am more concerned with how these people are becoming 'prisoners' rather than questioning the BBC's use of it.
That is where the BBC should be focusing any media attention.
It’s nice to read the comments of insane headlines like this to see how people won’t be fooled
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